1080+ 80crv2

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Hi guys, quick question, i recently bought a billet of 80crv2, the advert said 80crv2 1080+, now i know 1080 is relativly simple to heat treat for begginers but im not sure what 1080+ is
and upon research have found out that 80crv2 is yet slightly harder to heat treat.
given that i am a novice at knife making, like probobly so many people on here, and that i dont have a forge yet for HT, my question is....

is it possible to get a hard knife from blow torching a 80crv2 blade with mapp gas or am i waisting my time?
should i look into getting someone else to HT it for me, bare in mind this would be my second knife and more than likely end up as a wall decoration, rather than a knife that is regulaly used, id still like a relativly hard edge though.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.

thank you
Thomas Nutter.
 
Hey T TNutter , just go for it. Will it be optimal? No. Can you get it hard with a torch, yes.

I don't know what kind of torch you be are using, but if you can get some fire bricks and build a small "oven" to hold some of the heat in, it'll work even better.

Heat it to just over magnetic, quench in oil and temper at 400 in the oven and you'll have a hard knife.

Have fun with it and don't worry about perfection too much!
 
1080+ and 80CrV2 are the same steels. The story, as I recall, is that when Alpha Knife Supply received a new steel called 80CrV2 back in the day, they thought it sounded like a Chinese label (think of 8Cr13), so they called it 1080+. I like to call it 1080CroVan.
 
TNutter said:
Hi guys, quick question, i recently bought a billet of 80crv2, the advert said 80crv2 1080+, now i know 1080 is relativly simple to heat treat for begginers but im not sure what 1080+ is
and upon research have found out that 80crv2 is yet slightly harder to heat treat.
given that i am a novice at knife making, like probobly so many people on here, and that i dont have a forge yet for HT, my question is....

is it possible to get a hard knife from blow torching a 80crv2 blade with mapp gas or am i waisting my time?
should i look into getting someone else to HT it for me, bare in mind this would be my second knife and more than likely end up as a wall decoration, rather than a knife that is regulaly used, id still like a relativly hard edge though.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.

thank you
Thomas Nutter.
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Where did you get it? Some of the stock out there needs to be normalized before heat treatment or it won't work at all. Not that it's a bad steel. Some just needs a extra step1
 
TNutter said:
It was ordered from a company called GFS or GroundFlatStock.com in the U.K., not sure if it needs normalising or not to be honest.
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I can't give you any answers for that. There are only a couple of main places here in the States. A quick call is worth it.

You won't get a perfect heat treatment doing it that way just so you know. If you are just wanting to have fun you will do fine. If you are wanting to make a high performance blade you are going to need to send it out. In that case you are better with stainless or a high alloy steel that uses an air quench since you can nearly finish the blade before it's hardened.
 
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