10cr15comov?

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Hi everyone, I am thinking of buying a fixed blade knife from stedemon knives. They use 10cr15comov on this knife. I could not find any info on internet. Can anybody help me with Info on this steel? How does this steel perform? Does it keep edge longer than 8cr13mov?
 
ryosuke said:
Hi everyone, I am thinking of buying a fixed blade knife from stedemon knives. They use 10cr15comov on this knife. I could not find any info on internet. Can anybody help me with Info on this steel? How does this steel perform? Does it keep edge longer than 8cr13mov?
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I'm not an expert by any means, but 9cr18mov is basically the same as 440c, which isn't bad. I would imagine 10cr15comov would be a notch or two above 9cr18mov. 8cr13mov is pretty good if heat treated right but 440c still holds an edge longer.
 
No I'm not planning to do batoning with it,though I want to try chopping and batoning with it if the edge can take it. Is the steel too brittle for batoning?
 
ryosuke said:
No I'm not planning to do batoning with it,though I want to try chopping and batoning with it if the edge can take it. Is the steel too brittle for batoning?
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well, if you're going to try it, dont whack it too hard with the hammer/baton. same for chopping, dont use too much force. not sure what their heat treatment is like on it.
 
Pretty sure 10Cr is more akin to 440C than 9Cr is. 9Cr is a good steel, but it doesn't have the same carbon content that 10Cr or 440C have. I've had knives in all 3 steels, and I'd say a good 440C is marginally better at edge retention than 10Cr, but that could have been HT variance, but both are a little bit better than 9Cr. For toughness, 10Cr might be a hair tougher than 440C, but less tough than 9Cr and 8Cr, but the corrosion resistance is the opposite with 440C at the top and 8Cr at the bottom.

Hope that at least comes across as semi decipherable.
 
Who has real info on this steel? Is it supposed to be a chinese copy of VG 10? Some of the adverts of Stedmon have knives made from Vg10, some 440C. Or, it could be 420j steel or any other steel or steel like material they say it is. If you buy a knife of some strange steel you have never heard of from a PRC company with little reputation intentionally and pay the prices asked for a company then good luck to you. I personally wouldn't pay more than $10 to $15 for that quality but hey, I'm not the one seriously contemplating buying Stedmon knives, am I ?
 
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I checked out the "Knife Steel Compositions" app, and it doesn't have this alloy listed, and they tend to be fairly reliable.

Are you sure you have the correct alloy stated?
 
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There is an X110crMoV15, and they state it is akin to 440B.
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That isn't like 440B. The 10cr15comov should have cobalt and that above shows none. The one listed above would be a generic version of Aus 10A, not 440C or B. To be honest though I think it's probably just 8C or 9C standard chinese cutlery steels with the ad department making up their new proprietary steel for marketing reasons. That would be my best guess.
 
IME it's close enough to my Cold Steel's AUS8 to hardly notice any difference, but my experience is limited
 
Resurecting this thread - as the steademon are on sale now - they look nice but this steel is a complete newbie for me... the composition seems much nicer than the standard 440b or c from what I can tell.

Addition of Co, and V make a good improvement, in theory... on paper it looks interesting, and maybe it's too little V?
http://zknives.com/knives/steels/GB/10cr15comov.shtml
 
I forgot to mention that I did have a cheap knife in this steel, and it held up perfectly fine. About what I expect out of 440C. Heat treat wasn't maximized, but it held and edge and got sharp. So long as you buy it from a good maker, you shouldn't have any issues with this steel.
 
There are a lot of choices in steel these days, at pretty competitive prices. Check out the steel chart in Spyderco's catalogue (download).
 
your 'questions' are a thread... and the thread is a spam message about sheet metal fabrication - with no questions....

therefor you have no questions...
your confusion kind of makes sense I guess... having questions where there are none
I'd be confused also ; p
 
Most likely another underrated decent to high quality Chinese steel, underrated only because it happens to be made in China. Can someone who knows about this stuff please give a truthful unbiased opinion.

This is based on the fact that Spyderco uses Chinese steels in their budget folders and people seem to like the way they cut. I have handled knives made of Chinese 8CR series of steel and have no complaints. I find it takes a very keen edge and works fine.

I have seen a youtube video of someone pounding a blade made of Chinese steel and not being able to break it.

My impression is it is probably good stuff if it is an evolution of the previous steels. The times of everything from China being junk are long over. We here in the US need to bring back more home production and creativity. Maybe we can then come up with a budget super steel along with a new cool designed knife that uses it.

Credit is given to where credit is due at least as far as I am concerned.
 
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