110 One Year On

The Zieg

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Just about a year on, here's the aluminum framed 110 with micarta scales and an S30V drop point blade. I originally gave a quick review here (Aluminum Buck 110: 430HC Clip Point vs S30V Drop Point?) and it seems time to say a bit more.

True to my prediction, keeping the knife as sharp as the day it arrived has been a challenge, though a welcome one. I've posted in other threads that I'm a profoundly mediocre sharpener and this steel has tested both me and my meager sharpening tools. But even with this shortcoming, I've kept the blade sharp enough to do yeoman work on baling twine, leather, boxes, birds, cuts of beef and pork, apples, carrots, and the occasional whittling job (so far, no fish except those caught at the grocery store, but I'll be fishing this Spring and Summer and I'm sure it will do well). All these tasks are no problem for any 110, of course, so there are no surprises there.

I was leery of the drop point not giving me the piercing capability I'd get from the clip point, but as I noted elsewhere, I don't have a clip point in my SAKs, my Mercator, or any puukko I carry. There's a bit of a clip on my Moras, but not much. As it turns out, this has not been a problem. The point is far sturdier than a 110 clip (not that I've ever damaged any of those, though I've seen it done), but the trade off is that I've had to pay closer attention when sharpening it because the grind seems to widen a bit as it reaches the distal end. There is little distal taper. So I've had a durable cutting edge that really holds up against tough tasks. Plastic clamshell packaging comes to mind.

I have usually carried this 110 in a horizontal slip sheath, but not always. I've slipped it into the leg pocket of carpenter's jeans, kept it upright in my back pocket alongside a handkerchief, and dropped into a jacket pocket. It is so light that it never feels like the brick a brass 110 does. I've carried it in the side pocket of a sport coat without feeling any burden. In the front trousers pocket it is less obnoxious than my keys (which, by the way, are responsible for most of the scratches in the aluminum).

As for the aluminum, it is worth noting that it does not smooth out the way the brass does on a traditional 110. The opening and closing action on this knife began rather smooth, but over time, where brass bolsters wear a bit and the 110 action becomes fluid, the aluminum 110 has become gritty and stiff over time. I can feel where the drag is and it is not in the pivot. It is very noticeably where the tang drags across the aluminum bolster (I suppose technically it the liner). Is aluminum harder than brass? Well, my reading indicates that pure aluminum is softer than brass, but this alloy Buck uses is some tough stuff. Even eleven months into regular use and frequent opening and closing, this 110 does not have the slick action of a year-old brass 110. I'll keep at it, though, and I'll report back in after another year with an update. In the meantime, I'll welcome any suggestion for smoothing up this action.

There is still no blade play in the open position whatsoever. It still locks open with a clack that sounds like dropping the slide on a 1911 pistol.

Two features that have held up beautifully are the blade and scale surfaces. The S30V blade is not badly scratched up, though it wouldn't bother me if it were. This is a user, after all. But even opening a box of nails and accidentally dragging the side (not the edge . . . Whew!) of the blade across several galvanized nails did not do much to the surface. As for stains, it's as bright as the day it came, which is to say, a brushed satin look. The micarta seems undimmed. It still looks different in various lights, the picture above being under halogens in my kitchen. I'll post a couple of pics from outdoors tomorrow. The knife has had some spills, causing some dings in the aluminum bolsters, but nothing has yet dinged or otherwise damaged the micarta. I initially worried the scales might be slippery. The micarta is not grippy, to be sure, but it is not at all slippery. As light as the whole knife is, there is little chance of dropping it due to the smoothness of the scales.

So I'm quite pleased with the aluminum bolstered S30V drop point 110 after almost a year. Thanks of course to @pjsjr who was so kind with his Buck collection last year. Thanks also to the folks who voted in the poll on that thread last year. It was the right choice. Now I just have to get better at sharpening!

Zieg
 
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Nice review. It's a good looking 110. I like the idea of a lightweight 110, and with a drop point.

As for speeding up the "smoothing out" process, you may try this. I've had it work on some, but not always. I had a new 055 that felt rough when opening the blade, even after thoroughly cleaning, lubing, and working many times. So I cleaned it very well with Dawn dish liquid and hot water, to remove all traces of lubricant. Then, before oiling, I worked the blade action for 20 minutes or so, hoping that the bare metal on metal would wear whatever was making the rough feel. I cleaned again and oiled with Hoppes 9 gun oil, and it was smooth as silk. I tried it on another knife, and it did not help. I guess it just depends on what the issue is and how bad, but it may be worth a try.

JT
 
Nice review. It's a good looking 110. I like the idea of a lightweight 110, and with a drop point.

As for speeding up the "smoothing out" process, you may try this. I've had it work on some, but not always. I had a new 055 that felt rough when opening the blade, even after thoroughly cleaning, lubing, and working many times. So I cleaned it very well with Dawn dish liquid and hot water, to remove all traces of lubricant. Then, before oiling, I worked the blade action for 20 minutes or so, hoping that the bare metal on metal would wear whatever was making the rough feel. I cleaned again and oiled with Hoppes 9 gun oil, and it was smooth as silk. I tried it on another knife, and it did not help. I guess it just depends on what the issue is and how bad, but it may be worth a try.

JT
Great minds think alike! Sadly, this technique has not yet worked for me. I suspect it may work in the future, as the dry joint shaved tiny particles of aluminum dust onto the white paper towel I was working over. But we can't know how long it will take to work. In the meantime, I'll keep after it and remember that opening and closing are not the main purpose of the knife. Cutting is.

Zieg
 
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Just about a year on, here's the aluminum framed 110 with micarta scales and an S30V drop point blade. I originally gave a quick review here (Aluminum Buck 110: 430HC Clip Point vs S30V Drop Point?) and it seems time to say a bit more.

True to my prediction, keeping the knife as sharp as the day it arrived has been a challenge, though a welcome one. I've posted in other threads that I'm a profoundly mediocre sharpener and this steel has tested both me and my meager sharpening tools. But even with this shortcoming, I've kept the blade sharp enough to do yeoman work on baling twine, leather, boxes, birds, cuts of beef and pork, apples, carrots, and the occasional whittling job (so far, no fish except those caught at the grocery store, but I'll be fishing this Spring and Summer and I'm sure it will do well). All these tasks are no problem for any 110, of course, so there are no surprises there.

I was leery of the drop point not giving me the piercing capability I'd get from the clip point, but as I noted elsewhere, I don't have a clip point in my SAKs, my Mercator, or any puukko I carry. There's a bit of a clip on my Moras, but not much. As it turns out, this has not been a problem. The point is far sturdier than a 110 clip (not that I've ever damaged any of those, though I've seen it done), but the trade off is that I've had to pay closer attention when sharpening it because the grind seems to widen a bit as it reaches the distal end. There is little distal taper. So I've had a durable cutting edge that really holds up against tough tasks. Plastic clamshell packaging comes to mind.

I have usually carried this 110 in a horizontal slip sheath, but not always. I've slipped it into the leg pocket of carpenter's jeans, kept it upright in my back pocket alongside a handkerchief, and dropped into a jacket pocket. It is so light that it never feels like the brick a brass 110 does. I've carried it in the side pocket of a sport coat without feeling any burden. In the front trousers pocket it is less obnoxious than my keys (which, by the way, are responsible for most of the scratches in the aluminum).

As for the aluminum, it is worth noting that it does not smooth out the way the brass does on a traditional 110. The opening and closing action on this knife began rather smooth, but over time, where brass bolsters wear a bit and the 110 action becomes fluid, the aluminum 110 has become gritty and stiff over time. I can feel where the drag is and it is not in the pivot. It is very noticeably where the tang drags across the aluminum bolster. Is aluminum harder than brass? Well, my reading indicates that pure aluminum is softer than brass, but this alloy Buck uses is some tough stuff. Even eleven months into regular use and frequent opening and closing, this 110 does not have the slick action of a year-old brass 110. I'll keep at it, though, and I'll report back in after another year with an update. In the meantime, I'll welcome any suggestion for smoothing up this action.

There is still no blade play in the open position whatsoever. It still locks open with a clack that sounds like dropping the slide on a 1911 pistol.

Two features that have held up beautifully are the blade and scale surfaces. The S30V blade is not badly scratched up, though it wouldn't bother me if it were. This is a user, after all. But even opening a box of nails and accidentally dragging the side (not the edge . . . Whew!) of the blade across several galvanized nails did not do much to the surface. As for stains, it's as bright as the day it came, which is to say, a brushed satin look. The micarta seems undimmed. It still looks different in various lights, the picture above being under halogens in my kitchen. I'll post a couple of pics from outdoors tomorrow. The knife has had some spills, causing some gouges in the aluminum bolsters, but nothing has yet dinged or otherwise damaged the micarta. I initially worried the scales might be slippery. The micarta is not grippy, to be sure, but it is not at all slippery. As light as the whole knife is, there is little chance of dropping it due to the smoothness of the scales.

So I'm quite pleased with the aluminum bolstered S30V drop point 110 after almost a year. Thanks of course to @pjsjr who was so kind with his Buck collection last year. Thanks also to the folks who voted in the poll on that thread last year. It was the right choice. Now I just have to get better at sharpening!

Zieg
Great review :thumbsup: I was wondering how well the aluminum would hold up . I'am assuming the pivot is aluminum to. Seems to be doing good :D
 
I appreciate your thorough review of the aluminum frame 110. I've been mulling one of these since they were introduced - how the aluminum held up was my main concern. OH
 
I appreciate your thorough review of the aluminum frame 110. I've been mulling one of these since they were introduced - how the aluminum held up was my main concern. OH
It really holds up well. Two years ago I retired a mid-70s two-dot 110 and bought a replacement. Over the course of 2017 its brass developed dings and pits and gouges commensurate with life on my little farm. Drops here and there and cracking nuts with the pommel and a couple of times even resinking proud finishing nails in old baseboards took their toll. In about the same amount of time, however, with the same level of use and almost the same level of abuse, the aluminum on the new 110 is in better shape.

Zieg
 
Nice review. I can't say enough good about my aluminum framed 110 (Copper and Clad).

I have noticed that same stiffness though. Not that it changes my mind. The aluminum has really ruined all other frame materials for me for 110s. Makes the knife the perfect rear pocket carry.
 
Thank you for the update Zieg!

I was contemplating the same knife. However I was a bit surprised by the lightness of the 110lt I picked up. Found out I really prefer the heavier handle. So I went with the 110 Ultimate hunter in black linen micarta from DLT instead.

I like the drop point. It has nearly the same profile as my Peltonen M07. Bucks s35vn is easy to maintain on a strop, and a steel works well as well.

I love micarta as a hand!e material. It is durable, warm, and very stable.

As always, 110's rule!
 
They sold out last summer, check the bay for a used one. If you join the Buck Collector’s Club Inc., there is a similar 112 currently being issued. Google Buck Collector’s Club and click on “become a member”.
 
View attachment 1106702 If you pick up a BCCI 30th Anniversary Aluminum 110, you can disassemble it to remove grit or polish surfaces in the pivot area. The pivot is also adjustable since there is no pivot bushing.
Very nice! I am on a yearlong knife buying moratorium, otherwise I'd seriously consider that model for all the reasons you describe. As it is, I have mentioned elsewhere I'm changing my Hebrew name to "Too Many Knives," or יותר מדי סכינים. Not possible, you say? Well, I'm wanting to use the knives I already own more often and I still have my eye on a couple of cavalry sabers. ;)

Zieg
 
Well at least you’re not changing it to a vegetarian name meaning bad hunter. Do any of the sabers come with a horse?
They do! I've been a horse trainer and riding instructor for some time and have a HEMA background. In fact I'm doing a two-day 18th and 19th century cavalry horsemanship clinic in July in Castle Rock CO. Targets for saber and light lance, riding in formation, anatomy of a cavalry charge, light cavalry tactics and uses in the field.

We'll be using nylon blunts from Purpleheart armory for both mounted and dismounted drill and I'll have a couple of repro swords and one Prussian Model 1811 Light Cavalry saber circa 1830 so students can feel what an actual cavalry saber should feel like. Swords as a tax write off! Who'd'a thunk it?

Zieg
 
I like that sheath!
The Big R here is now a Coastal Farm & Ranch.
I'll have to see if they carry anything like it.
 
I like that sheath!
The Big R here is now a Coastal Farm & Ranch.
I'll have to see if they carry anything like it.
Email me your address to classicalequitation /at/ gmail and I'll mail you one.

Zieg
 
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