110 Question

I watched that knife as well, the blade looks to be the finish common to that era and the 1st stamp was also inverted soooooooo.......I dont know if that means anything:o
 
Does look like a stamp over, but looks too heavy to me for that era.

In addition..... that grind line doesn't look quite right to me, but wadda I know..

The sheath looks correct.
 
One side of the blade looks to be shaped quite differently than the other.....is that correct for that time period?

Also.....does the stamp usually sit so far back under the bolster? Does the pivot pin look a bit odd?

That's all I can think of.
 
Someone just needs to get it in hand to really answer the questions.

When ya getting it JB? :D
 
Pack Rat said:
Someone just needs to get it in hand to really answer the questions.

When ya getting it JB? :D
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Sorry Ratty,

I did not buy it only watched it. Then dropped it here for discussion, real or altered fake? I remember reading or hearing that sometimes these get altered to look like they are older than they are, then sold for more $$$$$. I did not post until after the auction because I'm no expert and did not want to derail someone's auction if I was wrong (I'm wrong most of the time from what my wife tells me:rolleyes:).
jb4570
 
Bucksstophere said:
Isn't there a four rivet 110 that is older than a three rivet? I thought it was 4, 3, then back to 4 no?
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Used to work for buck when they were in El Cajon. Yes there was a 4 rivet then 3 then 4
Knife in pic looks to be right fr the period and yes the early (pre 1970) knives were hand stamped
 
jb4570 said:
Sorry Ratty,

I did not buy it only watched it. Then dropped it here for discussion, real or altered fake? I remember reading or hearing that sometimes these get altered to look like they are older than they are, then sold for more $$$$$. I did not post until after the auction because I'm no expert and did not want to derail someone's auction if I was wrong (I'm wrong most of the time from what my wife tells me:rolleyes:).
jb4570
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Hey,,,,your wife been talking to my wife? :D

It kinda looks to me, like that blade has been out of that frame, maybe at Buck, and got over struck then. That heavier strike is newer than the lighter strike.

And finally found mine and the grind looks ok for that one. The data sheets call it semi hollow ground. The nail nick still puzzles me some, That one looks thin, mine is heavy.... Hard to compare... At least I spent the last couple hours organizing and printing off the data sheets :cool::D
 
THE_LONGBOW said:
Were the early 110 blades stamped by hand?
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I would think so, since the early blades were forged by hand. I don't have the definitive answer, but it's an interesting subject.

Ah! hadziin answered this while I was typing
 
hadziin said:
Used to work for buck when they were in El Cajon. Yes there was a 4 rivet then 3 then 4
Knife in pic looks to be right fr the period and yes the early (pre 1970) knives were hand stamped
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Hi,,,Welcome to the Buck forum.... Can you give us a bit more info on the 4-3-4 rivets? I can't find any info on this. Then again, I haven't paid attention to rivets in all of the data sheets or the blade guide.

Unless you are talking about the change from two rivets to three rivet to use up the pre punched two rivet handles.
 
Buck_110 said:
It looks as if the stamp did not go deep enough into the metal the first time around, and was stamped a second time.
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I agree with you and Scott. An easy way to tell if it was done at the time of making or later by a different tool would be to look at it under a low power microscope.
 
The knowledge of this stamp seperates a real knife maker from a knife user . Ok, how it happens is; with those early blades there was much done by hand . So, when the craftsman finished rough grinding it, ready to go to the heat treater he probably was working at a wooden table . He merely layed it down on that, picked up his 16oz. shop hammer in one hand and Bucks stamp in the other, positioned the stamp on it and gave it the usual one lick and low and behold, the result-- a shadow stamp . Thats what the old maker call that . It will happen every time when using wood or something springy as the backing . Place a heavy metal plate on your bench, put the blade on that and give it a hit and behold -- no shadow because no spring . Now you know . I was trained by the old school makers . I've seen several Buck knives, stamped with shadows . DM
 
Welcome Hazdiin and thanks to you and Dave for very good info from folks in the know.:thumbup:
 
it is in buck lore that the early 110 were almost a hand made knife
yes -
have seen each side with slightly diff grinds
with the stamp almost under the bolster
wide belly and splinter picker type thin bellies
except for the twin stamp it is typ of any 110
 
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