119 at eBay, Amazon, etc

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I just noticed the "119 at Walmart" thread. There is a Walmart in my town but I almost never go to it & so don't know whether they stock the 119 or not, but I have bought a number of 119s (and sheaths) recently and observed something that has me a bit perplexed. [I have read 300Buck's strictures and shall strive to avoid breaking them]

It all started as I mentioned in another thread when I discovered the after-market sheath-makers on eBay. I liked the 119 for hiking but never liked the sheath because the knife would rattle in it. So over the years I bought a number of non-Buck knives looking for the perfect hiking knife, but after discovering the after-market sheath-makers I returned to the 119. I had a 119 in good condition, a Buck, 119, USA built around 1980 I suppose. After getting an after-market sheath for it I noticed that eBay sellers had declared knives built around the time I bought mine as "vintage." I next purchased (not from eBay) a brand-new 119 and noticed it had a different shape than my old Buck-119-USA. I found this matter interesting and sought to acquire other 119s of different periods on eBay to compare to the ones I had -- maybe work on them a bit to see how well they can be resharpened and how well the handle and pommel material can be improved.

In the course of doing that I discovered a strange thing. Ebay sellers were almost uniformly asking more for their older and used 119s than one could buy a brand new one for from Amazon, Walmart, KMart or other stores mentioned in the referenced thread. I can see spending extra for an exotic handle or a limited specialty run, but I have seen 119s less than 10 years old offered for significantly more money than one would pay at the aforementioned stores. Why is that? What must these eBay sellers be thinking? Did 119s used to cost a lot more than they are being sold for today?

Maybe the fact that the 119 has been so successful has made it possible for Buck to sell them for less than they used to be sold for -- I don't know. The 119 is the best-selling fixed-blade knife at Amazon. None of the other Buck fixed-bladed knives come close (if I remember correctly); so perhaps because Buck sells so many they can afford to take less profit on each one, and maybe that wasn't always the case. That's the only explanation I can think of for the fact that eBay sellers think they can get high prices for this knife.

Lawrence
 
For the sellers you mention. They are known for not being informed on brands and products and fraught with greed. Yes, the shape of the 119 changed from the 1980 shape. I have one of those and like it. Still, to get one with upgrade steel you'd have to go back 22 years not 10 like they think. Just another example of the way they do business. DM
 
Lawrence,

I think when it comes to high priced, older knives (10 years old), some eBay sellers prey on the uninformed and hope they get a "sucker" to buy their "vintage" knife. But some truly older knives (mid 80s and early) do have unique features that might be desireable to some people. Recently, I intentionally purchased a "1977 vintage" 124, because I wanted a 440C blade and the old style swivel sheath - features that are not available on the current reissued model. I paid a premium price for it, however it was NIB with paperwork. Anyway, IMO, some of the inflated 119 prices can be more justified if they have discontinued features (i.e. blade material, sheath design, spacer configuration, etc.), but not if the asking price is unreasonable.
 
For the sellers you mention. They are known for not being informed on brands and products and fraught with greed. Yes, the shape of the 119 changed from the 1980 shape. I have one of those and like it. Still, to get one with upgrade steel you'd have to go back 22 years not 10 like they think. Just another example of the way they do business. DM

David,

I bought a second "Buck/119/USA." The eBay didn't have a sheath and it was really dirty so I got it at a good price. It cleaned up nicely and holds a good edge, but not as good as the 119 I just bought. It may just be a matter of sharpening however. The edge shape on the new 119s is different from my 1980-vintage knives.

I bought a "Buck/USA" knife that looked in awful condition. It came with a sheath but the sheath dissolved in my hands so it went straight to my trash basket. I've spent a lot of time on this knife and since the Blade in the photos still held its original shape I had hopes it would clean up well and it has. It doesn't have much of a point and while I've worked a bit at that maybe I should leave well enough alone and concentrating (when I'm in the mood) at getting the remaining scratches out of the blade. According to the Date Code Chart my Buck/USA was made between 1967 and 1972, my second Buck/119/USA between 1972 and 1986. I imagine that if anyone was selling a "Buck" marked Buck, made between 1961 and 1967, they would be asking big bucks (pun unavoidable).

Lawrence
 
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