12c27

Tim-Gabz

Tim-Gabz

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I was looking at kit in a camping shop. I was impressed that they were including Buck in their limited line up. They had the Bucklite at @ 3x what I can get it for in South Africa though. They had another, the name I miss in 12c27. I don't recall Buck having knives in 12c27, not that it isn't one of my fav steels.

Does Buck do blades in this steel? Thanks
 
They have some in 13C26.
I've not seen any in 12C27, not that I am much of an expert in Buck knives. I'm just a fan.
 
There are several in the 2010 line up that have 12C27Mod steel.

Folding Ergo Hunter Avid (#597)
Ergohunter Caping and Boning Avid's (#'s 571, 581)
Fixed and folding Alpha Hunter Pro's (#'s 193, 194, 276, 277)
Fixed and folding Alpha Dorado Pro's (#'s196, 271)
Fixed and folding Omni Hunter's Avid's (#'s 391, 394, 396, 399)
 
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I am passionate about 12c27 and even over the odds may get one. We have had so many rip offs (Gerber mainly) locally that I was hoping that this was real (only $147). Thanks, much appreciated.
 
Can you describe the knife you saw? Might be able to tell which model it is from a description.
 
Yes, the Buck Website shows it at about $80 to $85 in that steel in both fixed and folding.

You can't buy it from the website?

Note: the link is at the top of this page.
 
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Material Notes: Sandvik 12C27 is a martensitic stainless chromium steel with an optimized analysis for high quality professional knife applications.

After heat treatment the composition of carbon and chromium gives a unique combination of properties including:
Very high hardness
Good corrosion resistance
Very high wear resistance

This grade is suitable for:
Hunting and fishing knives
Pocket knives
Skate blades and ice drills

Material Notes: Sandvik 12C27M is a martensitic stainless chromium steel developed for the manufacture of kitchen tools with high demands on wear- and corrosion resistance properties.

After heat treatment the steel grade is characterized by:
High hardness which gives good wear resistance.
Good corrosion resistance
Sandvik 12C27M is mainly used for kitchen tools, such as different types of knives and scissors, that need to tolerate dish-washing.

Information provided by Sandvik
 
From Buck website

0497BKG-B
ErgoHunter - Avid
Overview Tech Specs
Ergonomic design, improving hunting performance. The ErgoHunter™ series of knives have a new, innovative design exclusive to comfort and control for hunters needing a reliable skinning knife. The handle design is based on the primary gripping positions during use, to reduce hand fatigue and increase hunting performance. This version has new Alcryn® rubber which aids with grip. The skinner style guthook blade has a generous belly design that is perfect for skinning applications.



Made in the USA



Available: Yes
Blade Length: 4 3/4" (12 cm)
Blade Material: Sandvik™ 12C27Mod steel
Carry System: Black, heavy duty nylon sheath
Fixed Blade: Yes
Handle Material: Black rubber
New: Yes
Quantity: Yes
Weight: 7.7 oz. (218.3 g)
$116.00

Qty: Add to Cart


I wonder how much difference there is between the two, what the percentage differences are in the formulas and why according to the description, Buck chose the kitchen knife steel as opposed to the hunting knife steel?
 
Probably has something to do with the magic of the BOS heat treat, which is known to turn kitchen steel or even common pot metal into a near-supernatural substance that will slice through a concrete block as if it were warm butter and hardly ever need sharpening.
 
imafritz said:
I wonder how much difference there is between the two, what the percentage differences are in the formulas and why according to the description, Buck chose the kitchen knife steel as opposed to the hunting knife steel?
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It's probably something to do with the Bos heat treatment that makes it suitable for hunting and more outdoor applications. All the models that Buck uses it for are that type of knife.
 
From Sanvik
12c27

C Si Mn P max S max CR Mo
0.6 0.4 0.4 0.025 0.010 13.5 -

12c27M
C Si Mn P max. S max Cr Mo
0.52 0.4 0.6 0.025 0.010 14.5 -


Not a huge difference-looks like they were looking for the stain/corrosion resistance above all.
 
I was trying to remember when I was writing Jerker Andersson about his products what he said . But looking at it I'd go with the modified version for the corrosion resistance . Yet, you have to give up some carbon to get it . Humm, its not quite 1% though . DM
 
Sorry for the late reply, a day without power (just come on) has been a swine. I have owned and made a few knives of 12c27, getting someone else to do the heat treat. Most have had excellent report backs from friends. My kitchen blade has micro chipping from using a steel that makes it wickedly effective for cutting but 'orrible to look at (this is not uncomon with 12c27 when using a steel but ok with a stone). Another I set aside for cutting bread as it is fugly. I have come to realise that this ugly is a very good performer when teaching my son to batton and it has kept in excellent shape from using a steel hammer to batton with and punch holes in steel sheet. This one I am going to get RC tested and figure how to repeat that treat myself.

Buying on line with the Botswana Mail service is daft, throwing away good $. I have had a parcel of Frost blades handed to me with blood on, others seem to disappear in the middle of the Kalahari. I will stick to buying in South Africa.
 
Good luck with all of that. Shame about the mail-I guess thats one of the things we are lucky to be able to take for granted for the most part.
 
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