16.5" WWII brief field test.

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To get a feel for the working charicteristics of my 16.5" WWII, I performed a small field test out back.

WWII model with oak that was used for choping endurance.
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Strikes were made with intention to test depth of penetration and any tendency to glance or for the edge to stick in wood. I tried to use all available and practicle length of the edge. I would say that a little more than 1/3 of the strikes on left piece of wood were full force using hardened part of blade edge. 20 or so full force swings total. Penetration good, no glancing, a few wedged.

Edge was virtually unaffected. No dents, rolling, chiping, flatening, nothing. It was a bit duller than when I started, but 10 strokes with chakma on each side of edge yielded shaving performance.
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Sorry you had to see that.
I am impressed with the quality of this blade.

Handel and bolster did not fare so well. Bolster came loose halfway through testing on first piece of wood. Cracks in handel began within 3-4 strikes after that and continued in length untill I stoped testing.
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To sum up my thoughts.
The handel.......well.......yes.......ahhhhh..........right......
Suprised to say the least.:confused: Not to be expected i'm sure, although I now have my first rehandle project.:rolleyes:

This blade is great. Temper and forging seems excellent. It truly is more at home choping as opposed to clearing saplings or brush.It tends to cut 1/2 way into 1-1 1/2" saplings and then the edge wants to split them down the grain of the wood. This has got to be due to the bevel and or blade geometry because my 15" Ballance sings through these saplings. But the Ballance does not chop with quite the authority as the WWII. Diversity, It's what makes life fun I say.

If these pics work, I'll post some of my 15" Ballance with my handel mod and report it's test results.

To make a long post longer, I have to ad a picture of my personal guard monkey. Does any one want to ask him if he would like some candy?
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Thank you for your time and welcome any input.
 
That's totally messed up.

To me, if the pics you are posting of the bolster and the huge gaps on either side is a pic with the back part of the bolster flush with the handle then somebody put the wrong bolster on there because the bolster is supposed to fit tightly around the blade.

I always thought that the bolster were fitted to the blade and then soldered in place. That looks like somebody took a bolster intended for a larger blade and put it on there.

With that much space it is no wonder that the force of your swing probably caused the tang to crack the handle.

I'd tell Yangdu about that one and also who made it? What is the makers mark?
 
Not entending to butt in on Lizzard's post, but from the 6th pic it looks like it was made by Sher (half sun).

Sorry to hear it happend Lizzard, kind of surprised to see two handle breaks in such a short period of time. Hollow is right though, that bolster looks like it should of been used on a larger blade.
 
Skyler R. said:
Not entending to butt in on Lizzard's post, but from the 6th pic it looks like it was made by Sher (half sun).

Good eyes:thumbup: I totally missed that. Sher usually does good handles and bolsters. Kind of out of character.
 
That's unusual. I had a 25" siru that came with a big crack in the handle (horn) but I went ahead and tested it anyway. No change in the crack or loosening of the bolster. And these were hard swings with a heavy blade. I never returned it, just superglued it. Later traded it because it was too big for me, not because it was broken. Hmmm... I guess even Sher has off days. Rare, but it happens. Talk to Yangdu, she'll make it right. Or you could talk to Dan and have him turn it into a work of art.

Frank
 
Frank, it needs to go back to Reno, and if possible, Nepal. It just should not have happened. No excuse. Shop foreman can make the point more...er...precisely, than an email or fax.

Neat to see the issues brought to light, if anything, it enhances the reputation of H.I.'s integrity.
 
Thank you for your input gents. Youre correct Skyler R, the blade does indeed have Sher's mark.
I don't know if i will trouble Yangdu with it, but I do hope she will see this post and that it may help in a positive way. Just trying to add knowlege to the database.

Thanks for the comment on the kid pic Hollow, he is my second of three sons. He did not believe I would put his picture on here, so I did it to embarrass him. It worked:) But not much, he likes to be the center of attention alot:)

Leather washer handel? Someone mentioned it on the post for a cracked HI Bolo handle by Big Bob earlier today. It's got me thinking................

I would like to keep the blade, because it seems to be an excellent utility design for medium duty use. And like I said, the blade temper and forging seems to be excelent.
I am sure it could take much more than i gave it today. And if i keep it, you can trust that i will and report back.
Thanks again to all.
 
From Kimset."Neat to see the issues brought to light, if anything, it enhances the reputation of H.I.'s integrity".


Thanks Kimset, that was exactly my intention for this post.


There is no knowlege that is not power
 
Kismet said:
Frank, it needs to go back to Reno, and if possible, Nepal. It just should not have happened. No excuse. Shop foreman can make the point more...er...precisely, than an email or fax.

Neat to see the issues brought to light, if anything, it enhances the reputation of H.I.'s integrity.

I should have put a ;) after I said "talk to Dan". That was more joking than serious.
Frank
 
Send it back to Himalayan imports for replacement.

HIMALAYAN IMPORTS
PMB 69
RENO, NV 89509
 
Sounds like a good blade. Would make a great re-handle project.


I've never seen one twist in the bolster like that. I'm glad you brought it to the forum.


munk
 
That second, shaving pic? Sorry to say it, but you're an ugly guy. Took guts to shave your face with it, though. ;)

Kid's cute. Can't wait to have children of my own.

Thanks for the feedback and great pics. I love my WWII (though I also love my BGRS).

John
 
Did the blade turn in the handle. I mean, is the handle loose? Or is the bolster just poorly fit. The crack is an epoxy fix, and you could handle that no problem, but if the handle is coming off, or has twisted within the handle then I'd think you'd want to rehandle. The bolster looks wonky as hell though. Yangdu will fix it for you. Interesting read! Thanks.
 
Glad the blade held up so well - I'm as surprised as anyone else that the handle's giving such trouble. My own 16 1/2" WWII has been to hell and back, with no complaint except a slight lengthening of the couple of handle cracks that made it a blem in the first place. Nothing that superglue couldn't/didn't fix.
 
that was me with the washers :) i like the idea...

since the bolster opened up that way... one thought would be to:
o wrap blade in some cloth, and tape/cardboard up the edge and put in vice with cardboard shims horizontally if you have, and see if you can twist the handle? yes? mmm. put blade vertical, gently lock down. gently!

o open up the bolster MORE, fill with slow cure epoxy mixed with fiberglass dust/shreds... PACK IT IN THERE until it oozes out the crack.

o ALIGN THE BLADE to handle!

o use padded vice grips/etc to squeeze bolster back into place flush with blade

o wipe off crud

o ALIGN THE BLADE again :)

o let it all set for a day or two. forget it's there. don't touch it. your'e touching it. i can see you. stop that, you'll go blind. that should take care of twist, and the handle too hopefully. if not, pack the crack with more epoxy/wooddust/glass...

o sand, finish, clean... try it out. still awful? rehandle!

whee

bladite
 
Yangdu,
Thank you for your response and generous offer. But on this one, I think I will keep it as a coustom rehandle project and learn a bit more about these knives in the process. And I am waiting on your next DOTD by the way:)


Specter-
That second, shaving pic? Sorry to say it, but you're an ugly guy. Took guts to shave your face with it, though.

Hey, secure that s#!t, I can go home and get that kind of treatment;)



munk and aproy,
The blade slill feels tight in the handle with no percievable play or slack of the butt cap and keeper. But the bloster itself is free to rattle/rotate around to the limits shown in the third and fourth pics.

DaveRishar,
Yes sir. That is my oldest sons boot camp pic. His other photo is above and just outside the shot. He is currently in BUDs Class 260, 3rd Phase and living life to its fullest in the Coronado, Cali area.


Thanks,


Mike
 
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