184 Question

Haebbie

Haebbie

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Dear Sirs,

This knife is offered in Germany:



It looks like a 184 but it is marked with C.Jul.Herbertz and a number and is offered with a compass.

Question: Is it just a copy? Or made Buck those knives as an OEM Producer for the German Knife supplier Herbertz?

Many Thanks for any answers!

Best Regards,
Haebbie
 
Pouches are wrong for a 184....can you get a close up picture of the tang stamp.
Is the sheath marked BUCK anywhere?
Picture of the compass.
 
Thanks triple E.

here are the other Pic's

a usable close up is not available.





Best,
Haebbie
 
Compass is wrong also...looks like a Brunton(sp).
Does your camera have a macro setting on it for close ups.... looks like a tulip icon on your display screen .... and use a tripod for clearer pics....if you have one.
 
I didn't buy the knife until now, so I am not able to take macros. If I buy it, I'll post the picture. But it is the general question: Did Buck produces knives or knife blades as an OEM manufacturer for Herbertz? The 532EU was made for Herbertz but it was sold as a Buck.

Best,
Haebbie
 
now this one is one to send to Joe !!!
wow i had heard buck did some OME now and then...
they are doing some now...
 
To my knowledge we did not do any specials runs of the 184 for Herbertz. So I thought that maybe it was a sample that we did for them but something does not look right. E cubed nailed it as far as the pouches go but the sheath webbing does not look right either. Something about the handle looks wrong and the guard looks a tad too thin.
How thick is the blade and guard? That might help us figure it out.
Close ups will help if you can figure out how.
 
Come on guys!
It's a fact that Herbertz markets Asia made products under its lable (notably Taiwan).
So its probably a copy made in Taiwan (seeing that the Taiwanese cloned Buckmaster has been around for the longest time), from a cutlery manufacturer which shows little care for legal implications or is ignorant of the existence of such laws???!
 
Thank you, guys, for your help!

Closeups are no longer necessary. The knife is a fake. The blade is thinner than the original and the grinding is a somewhat different. And there are differences to the origin handle. And the most important thing: The blank isn't forged. It is stamped.

The knife is acceptable but I don't like it. I sell it again at once.

Best regards,
Haebbie

P.S.: What i don't understand is that the repesentative of Buck knives in Germany seems to be allowed to sell a fake of a Buck knife under the name of Herbertz.
 
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