184 Sawteeth

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Did the 184 ever have split sawteeth (two rows of sawteeth) in the back?
 
always thought it.was the single row for cutting aluminum from a downed plane or whatever reason one might have. didnt know they made a actually saw version for wood. tuned in for the experts to elaborate and clarify.
 
For clarification, here is an example of split sawteeth...


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Is that a genuine 184? There are a few things about it that are not typical of a 184.
 
No that's a Timberline SA.

I don't think any regular production Buckmaster ever had the split saw.

The reason a sabre grind-mounted sawback work less well is the broad parallel flat surfaces below the blade saw... The BMF were not split either. The split of the teeth probably adds efficiency, but not a lot.

It could be some of the Buck Custom Shop models got split as an extra...

Gaston
 
Double row saw teeth on a buckmaster ??!
Until proven otherwise, never saw one.
Gotta agree that the linked picture
Does kinda give the illusion of just such a feature though...
It does seem strange that such a particular feature
Be not highlighted in a picture or worded description?
 
I wondered about the angle that the photo was taken. So for S and G I tried to put my late 184 Buckmaster at the same angle. I could see that, if the lighting was right, it could look as it does in the photo above by ACK, appearing to have two rows of teeth. Preston
 
If you go to the listing though, the photo of the opposite side looks the same. Someone has a book, or a mountain of Buckmasters and is holding out on us...
 
So if it's a party foul to link this site let me know and I'll take it down.

Interestingly enough, after looking over many of these photos, I don't see any with split saw teeth. What I do notice is that the shadow of the knife makes it appear as though they are split tines. Looking back at the one on AZ for comparison; I'm going with it being a shadow causing the appearance of split tines. It's been decades since I've had a Buckmaster in hand, but I don't believe the blade thickness is the same as the tine length. Correct me if I'm wrong...

http://survival-knife-184.com/buck master list.html
 
In my travels I have seen a bunch of old 184's. To the best of my knowledge, non of them had split saw teeth. If there is such a model, I would sure love to see it. Even so, I'd wager that Buck stuck to the original design unless it was some form of custom revamping...
 
If you look at Buckmasters that were sold at ACK in the past and assuming they were photographed at the same angle and same lighting, none of them appear to have split teeth, so I don't think it is shadowing on this particular knife. Curiosity got the best of me, so I sent an email this morning to confirm either way. I'll report back as soon as I hear from them.
 
MT_Pokt said:
So if it's a party foul to link this site let me know and I'll take it down.

Interestingly enough, after looking over many of these photos, I don't see any with split saw teeth. What I do notice is that the shadow of the knife makes it appear as though they are split tines. Looking back at the one on AZ for comparison; I'm going with it being a shadow causing the appearance of split tines. It's been decades since I've had a Buckmaster in hand, but I don't believe the blade thickness is the same as the tine length. Correct me if I'm wrong...

http://survival-knife-184.com/buck master list.html
Click to expand...

The photo TAH linked absolutely has split sawteeths: Not a shred of doubt about it, if you look at the blown up photo (ACK is great fot this), you can clearly see it: Amazing...


Gaston
 
Here's the reply from ACK...

"It does have two rows of sawteeth, and now that you mention it, it does look like someone modified it. It doesn’t look crude, but the cut is a little off center. It definitely happened after it was bead blasted. The cut is shiny."

Side question - I'm not a knifemaker or machinist, so I'm curious, how difficult would it be to split the teeth after the blade had been heat treated?
 
The answer is: Very!

Modifying after heat treating is about five-ten times harder, if not more... It's actually quite an incredible feat that he did so without ruining the knife's surface... Off-center by a little is not a huge deal: Often seen on a Lile or even Neeleys...

It is far away from the edge, so the edge, or even the saw, being softened is unlikely... If it decently done, it is quite a find... I'd go for it just for the uniqueness...

Gaston
 
ACK revised the description after our email exchange. It is such an early model, at first I thought it might be a prototype.
 
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