1st Primitative friction folder

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I guess I may have posted this in the wrong place. So Will try it again. Atleast I hope thats what happened, 84 views and not one comment. Now I realize that means not one bad comment but come on guys is it that bad!
I realize that its not as fancy as a lot of the knives I see on this forum but, thats why they call it a Primitative friction folder !:rolleyes:
Hope there is no problem with reposting this! http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578110
 
I've moved this to the "Gallery" so more folks will have an opportunity to view and comment on your work.

Perhaps, other than the link, you may want to give the members a little information in the thread here about yourself, the knife, materials and how it came to be.

Hope you get a little more feedback here and I've also left a link to this thread from the traditional forum.
 
Hey thanks I have never posted to much to this forum except on the Shoptalk-Bladesmith & Questions answers. So kind of fimilar with some of those who hang out there.
I have been building knives for a couple of years regularly. Although I made my first knife 25 yrs ago. I deal mostly in knives that would have been popular throught the 1800-1900s. Always felt like I was born in the wrong period of time!:)
My intrest to this point has been in knifemaking through reduction, I want to get into forging. I am in the process of building my first forge and I am lookig forward to the day when I get it up and runnning!
I don't know what else to tell about myself, hopefully the knife has something to say!
 
Cool knife. I was never a fan of friction folders, but it does have a cool look to it, and a long back end, which will definitely help hold it in place when in use. Good luck on your forge. Sounds like a plan, man.
 
Thanks for the encouraging words. That was one reason I didn't cut the length is it allows for the entire hand to hold resistance on the blade to keep it from turning during use. What I like about them is that is was the origional design for a folder. That's kind of cool even with the blade rotation problem.
 
I like it. I have also owned many custom FF knives and this one strikes me as quite unique. Please tell, what was the kind of steel from the saw blade you used. Did you mention if it was flat ground or hollow ground, or what? I also like the primitive artistic style washer as well. What was the technique?
 
The Primative friction folder is made from an old two man saw, like they use to cut trees with in my Grandfathers time.
Relatively high carbon steel. The steel is excellent to work with because it can be filed but only with a good sharp file. Therefore I do not anneal the entire blalde, I spot anneal as long as I watch my heat it allows for drilling holes but won't kill the steel.
I always cut large and work into the shape I want as a final knife. As long as I keep it cooled while working it I have never had any problems. I was told by a Master Bladesmith not to try and harden after I finished the knife unless my heat got too intense as it would probably make the steel too brittle, without annealing the entire blade and rehardening.
When I get one finished they take and hold an awsome edge. I have been doing mostly flat grinds on these knives for several reasons. I am not a fan of hollow grinds personally. I also think it probably looks more authentic to the time period. Lastely because I am not set up at the present time to do a hollow grind. I start off filing the edge and usually touch it some what on this setup. It's kind of primative in it's self but until I can get some more money back into my shop I use it to grind on.
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It's a 4x24 belt grinder mounted in a bracket so I can run it on it's side and be able to use both hands. I need to go back and rework my 90* guide as it was something I threw on there as an after thought one day and it only allows me access to about half of the belt like it is. I am a retired carpenter and give me a belt sander and a good belt and there isn't alot I can't do with it!:D
The washers are small pieces of that same steel that the knife was cut from. I shaped by hand to a larger than needed size drilled and chucked up the pieces in a drill and worked them out round. I then proceded to lay them over the end of piece of pipe and ballpeened the back side to make it convex so when the pivot was peened in they would hold pressure to it all. The design was more something to give a little appeal but yet keep it in style with the time. The deep grooves are done from the center of each washer out with a small round file and the other are done the same way with a V-file. The washers and blade were done with OSPHO for look. The washers took it well probably because they had gotten hot while working them down. The blade I didn't like as well so it underwent the mustard technigue for a final patina!
Thanks for the good feedback!
 
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