2 to 3 day pack suggestions?

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Ill apologize up front for the long post. Im going to start doing some weekend trips with my oldest son this spring. Its been a good ten years since I did much backpacking, raising a family kind of took up all my time. Well, he is 10 now and loves the woods! I did alot of backpacking in my twenties and had some nice gear, but its all long gone now. Im looking for a pack. I own and have owned numerous maxped, camelback, 5.11, etc and I love them for edc or dayhikes, but really dont care for them on extended treks. I prefer more of an open design with one big compartment and a few small ones. Back in the day, I loved Gregory and Dana packs but Ive not really kept up with it. I have noticed alot of the packs now are much lighter and made out of less durable stuff. I think mine were all made from cordura which was really tough. Anyway, anyone have any suggestions?
Must haves:
Durable
Lower belt straps, I have a long torso
Large main compartment
 
Tactical tailor modular operator or 3 dap+ assault pack. Or if you're looking for something larger the extended range pack is nice as well. Kelty makes a strike 37 that is really nice . my son uses mine for school but its a good bag tough and inexpensive. Hope that helps a little.
 
Kifaru makes some of the most durable and comfortable packs out there. You might check out some of the stuff they have to offer. The packs are made to order from your specific size specifications. The wait time is pretty long, 6-8 weeks, but for a custom sized pack that will last a lifetime ....it is worth the wait. They are pricey, but it is a pack that will stand up to anything.

Here are some of the packs that might fit your needs;

http://www.kifaru.net/ZXR.html

http://www.kifaru.net/zulu.html

http://www.kifaru.net/lateseason.html

Eberlestock also makes "bomb proof" packs as well. They are cheaper, but they are not custom fit.
 
I have a Marmot Aspen 35, which I have used for about a year. It is a top loading rucksack with one main compartment and a few small compartments in the detachable lid. It is meant to be a winter pack, so it is pretty streamlined and lacks external pockets, etc. It is just the right size for extended day hikes, winter hiking, light one or two night trips, or even as an airline carry-on.

I like its simplicity and non-tactical look (tactical gear is cool, but can attract the wrong sort of attention). My only complaint is that the hip belt is not well padded, but this is only an issue if you overpack the bag.
 
I bought a maxpedition falcon II and a JanSport Agave...I far and away like the jansport better. It was cheaper and is organized far better for me. If I have an opportunity I will see if I can get some side by side pictures. One major reason I like the jansport is it has to outside side pockets that can hold a 32oz naglene in each with my nested titanium 750 cup and lid. Also, the shoulder straps are padded much better. This is my 2-3 day pack. It is a little big but I like that. It has a place for a 3L hydration bladder (which doubles as a laptop compart. too) It is around 32L and is 420 Denier nylon so it isnt the beefiest compared to the Max which is 25L pack and the straps just arent as comfortable and it is 2-3x the cost as well! The max is heavier too. Now where the max is king is in the nylon...it is a tank!!!!! 1050 denier which makes this thing tough and stiff!! Do I need something like that? No! Some would say 420D isnt that thick yet might I remind everyone one that packs such as the osprey aether 70 (a 70L...4000cu) pack is 210D in places and 420 in others. 420 is decent and will do the job. I find the maxpedition to be too expensive for my needs and the layout is nowhere near as functional as my Agave. I do like max stuff quite a bit but it is more tactical then campable/hikable (if that is a word?). The 1050D will help with the rain better but it isnt waterproof so if you are in the rain for a good amount of time your stuff will get wet. I take a golite poncho with me and use it to cover me and the pack. But I cannot deny that the max stuff is made so well it is crazy!! The Jansport retails for 50-60 bucks and the max is around 150. You can find both for less! Now I have to add one thing Max makes a PYGMY Falcon-II which is a slightly smaller but holds two nalgenes like the agave it is only 23L so it is smaller yet it is also cheaper! I also think the straps are more comfortable on this falcon II compared to mine. However I think both are too small! If they could make the PYGMY in a 30-35L that would be nice! The condor is the biggest they make a max and it is not bad! I like how you can tie down a bed roll/sleeping bag on the bottom! This is a nice feature if it had the naglene pockets on the side...this would be hard to beat!
 
For a 2-3 day trip I would take my Osprey Kesterl 32 and not think twice. It is easily the most comfortable pack I have ever owned and Ospreys durablity is pretty darn high. They back them with a lifetime warranty so if it does get messed up your covered. I also prefer panel loader packs which is why I went with the 32 and not the top load 38. Best thing I can say is if you have an REI store close is go in there spend some time with one of the hiking guys in there and let them fit you up with a pack you will hardly you know you are wearing, thats how I found my Osprey.
 
Osprey Atmos comes in 50 and 65 liters... perfect packs IMHO. My kid (12 yo) uses an Osprey Ace.
 
You guys should forgive me...I pack really light...30-35l is typically a day pack (one nighter) in the summer or warmer spring days. I can use my 32l for a weekend trip in the summer, late spring, early fall. A 55+ is probably a better option...for if you take a tent, bag, pad, pot, stove, clothes, food...a 32l will not cut it!. 65 is probably a sweet spot. I like lightweight back packing but it is an art to get right. The equipment is also expensive and you buy a lot thinking it will be great and it blows!!!!!!!!!!!! We typically try for a 15lb or less pack (for a one to two night)...10 is a goal but not for everyone...for we sacrifice comfort and convenience when we lightweight. A more reasonable for 3 dayer is 55-75l and around 30Lbs with kids tack on 5-10 more! My Aether 70 is huge! I can get my winter stuff in there for a 3 dayer...and that includes a 4 man tent that is 7lbs! I tie my pad on the bottom, tent inside my sleeping bag inside, clothes and so on...it gets full fast! Summer is a different animal! I can pack for 2 people in the aether easy! However heavy pack in the Summer BLOWS...they are more work and you will get hot not to mention the sun knocks me out fast! If money isnt an issue...get an Osprey Atmos 65 its a good buy and a great bag! This I highly recommend!!! Oh and the Granite Gear Blaze...it is only a 60l but it is light and built well...it is also designed well! And the Gregory Z65...light as well you wouldnt think it is as comfortable as it is by looking at it...but it is! One note if you put over 30lbs in any of these packs you probably wont like it...but the osprey has the best design in that department so if you think you will pack heavy then osprey is the ticket! The suspension system, air flow and molding is really good! This is why I did my aether 70!
 
How much gear to you take? Space and weight are big issues, but weight really determines they type of frame and belt. I assume you're talking about larger loads? Or are you doing bushcraft, so less weight?
In my past, I have carried about 50 lbs on 2-3 day trips. So, I have a Kifaru cargo hauler on order right now. My plan involves stacking larger gear(tent, sleeping bag) at the bottom of the hauler, and using either Kifaru lock n' load bags or a smaller backpack/dry bag for clothes and smaller gear. I've seen other examples of how these can be packed on the Kifaru Forums, not just outdoor gear, but chainsaws to firewood, to jerry cans.
Kifaru offers lots of different backpacks, lots of info to take in. They have smaller packs, but all the larger ones can be unstrapped from the frame sheet/harness. In short, I can choose to buy any "bag" from Kifaru and it will link right up to the framesheet of my hauler, I'll just have to remove the cargo panel.
Kifaru packs are made to order, for you, your dimensions, and are supposed to carry more than you can. Mine is estimated to ship in late January, I'll have to play around with my gear to find what works for me.

My old pack never did fit me well, and it was hard on my body on those multiday long mile trips. I need a pack that rides better, and I want to go lighter to save my back and knees. I don't mind spending the money on something made in America just for me.
 
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Kelty Redwing 50 Internal Frame Pack
3100 cu inch / 50 Lt
$90

fits your requirements and is a good price and Kelty quality
 
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Do you want to go the tactical or non-tactical route? Also, do you remember what you used to use in terms of liter size pack back in the day? For some people 2-3 days equals a 50L pack, but then there are others that will tell you how they can "easily" do a 2-3 day trip using a 20L pack.
 
Your other gear will determine the capacity you need, and personal fit will determine which pack of that capacity works for you. You might get a lot of suggestions, but you won't get any good ones unless you can give more details. I was still very military in my thinking when it came to gear until the last few years, but am finding extreme durability isn't necessarily a desirable quality in a pack unless dictated by use.
 
Im looking for non tactical. Ill mostly be packing a hammock or lightweight two person tent, food for three days, tarp, bag,and some extras. I like to store items in small cases or poches before packing into pack. I dont think I would need anything more than a 35 liter pack that I can lash bedmat or bag to.
 
I also like packs without much attached on the outside. I like everything inside for the most part. I do like the option of attaching a knife to the belt strap but I can always figure something out there.
 
As someone who has spent a ridiculous amount of time under a pack, and owns way more packs than anyone ought to, I have very strong opinions on packs. Let me share some of my hard earned beliefs with you.

For starters, IMHO the holy trinity of packs is Kifaru (which are the toughest), Mystery Ranch (which are the most comfortable) and Eberlestock ( The most versatile and least talked about of the three). Arcteryx is their prophet on this earth (they make quality and comfortable gear especially in their LEAF line) ;) I have packs from all three of the trinity and have handled LEAF bags a few times, I wont recommend anything to you, that i myself would not purchase for myself.

The second thing I want to state upfront is that as with many things, you are going to get what you pay for. You need a quality bag, with a quality hip-belt if you are going to spend a large portion of time with a load of more than about 30 pounds on your back. You are correc tin your desire for a hip-belt, its going to save you alot of pain and possible injuries down the road.

Since this is your first "real" pack in awhile, I would recommend eberlestock since they are generally the cheapest of the trinity and their products are bomb-proof, I have a pack from them that I abused horribly and aside from discoloration is still ls good as new. I own 3 eberlestock packs, so again I'm not recommending you anything that I myself wouldn't buy.

Assuming that we have the same idea of what constitutes a 3 day pack, I recommend the X4, I have the X3 which is the same but with an added scabbard and it is a hell of a pack, like the Halftrack, which I also own, it has the ability to convert from one compartment to two, and it allows you to get at your load in two separate ways from both the top and the front. This is incredibly useful in alot of situations. Its got two hydration bladders for sustained time away form a water source. Like all eberlestock products it has an adjustable harness, your long torso will not be a problem. I find their hip-belts to be really comfortable, and their shooters harness is extra thin to facilitate good shouldering of a weapon. This best part of this is that unlike Kifaru and MR packs, they can be bought for less than MSRP, Unless you are Mil/LEO who get a 10% discount and awesome customer service, this can equal a substantial savings. The X4 can be had for under 160 bucks on a major retail site. Hint: Its named after a large river in South America ;)

If the Eberlestock Line doesnt appeal to you, Mystery Ranch is another great company. I own their Sweet pea pack (the only non military style pack I own) and its incredibly nice. Its got bombproof construction, and a slew of really nice features. The two that appealed most to me are the tri-zip and the stow-able waist straps. The Tri-Zip is an amazing concept and i knew form the first time i saw one that I was going to have to purchase one. It really opens the pack up wide and lets you get what your looking for and lets you pack the heavy stuff in close to your back and upwards where they are stable, while still allowing you access to the other stuff. The Hip-belts are full featured and comfortable but still allow you to stow them in compartments on the side in case you need to climb with the pack on, or you k now that you are going to be taking it on and off alot. Also the sweet pea has this amazing beaver tail which lets me stuff dirty things on the outside of the pack instead of putting them inside, its got plastic stays that turn it into essentailly a giant bowl, capable of locking something as small as shoes or a balled up jacket to something as largew as an ACH in place without you having to worry about it going missing. They offer a bigger military style version of the Sweetpea called the Komodo, which as near as i can tell is identical to the packs alot of units use to carry COMM systems. This pack looks like it would suit all your needs and be really comfy, on the downside its pretty much double the price of the X4, additionally you may have no need of the BVS but youd be paying for it anyways (it works really well if you have never tried it)

Another option is the Kifaru ZXR, amazing packs. Aside form being stupidly tough, they can be overstuffed to a ludicrous degree. I havent owned one, but the Zulu which is the smaller version of the zxr would be a really good fit for a three day pack, But since my familiarity is with the ZXR and Armor Grip 1 i cant really tell you exactly if it would suit your needs, other than to say Kifaru makes amazing products.


The only other thing I would consider wpuld be an old school, metal framed alice pack. The guy who started tactical tailor got his start enhancing them, and they still do the best ruck mods on the market.

Hope this helps, Good luck on finding the pack thats right for you.
 
Im looking for non tactical. Ill mostly be packing a hammock or lightweight two person tent, food for three days, tarp, bag,and some extras. I like to store items in small cases or poches before packing into pack. I dont think I would need anything more than a 35 liter pack that I can lash bedmat or bag to.

50 liters and nothing hangs outside.....
 
I just picked up a frost river arrowhead trail pack, you should check em out. From what you've described it, or one of their other pack may be just what you're looking for
 
Look at Osprey and Gregory. And dont be fooled by the ripstop nylon construction. They are just as tough as anything else and in an entirely different league than Maxp, etc.
 
You need to get to backpacking store and try on some packs. Pack buying is highly personal. Most recommendations will fall short. You need to try on packs and handle them. Kildare and mystery ranch are great but are way overbuilt for most people's use. A civilian backpack will serve you better for a lot less cash. Good luck!
 
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