$20 disposal store knife w/ some pics

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Hey, so I've put my other knife that i want on hold and went down to my local camping and disposal store to pick up a cheap folder.
The images were taken with my webcam, so they are not as clear as they could be.

So I ended up getting some $20 folder. Its a pretty shit knife, but its my FIRST ONE, and for only 20 bucks, its a decent price.

So here it is, any help identifying it would be great.
Haven't used it yet, but will maybe get some pics up later on.

Here are some specs I measured myself.
Weight: not sure
Total Length:18.8 cm
Blade Length:8.3 cm
handle Length:10.8 cm
Steel: 440 something
Style: clip point (correct me if I'm wrong)
Grind: not sure, maybe a double bevel could you help me out

Its a liner lock (i think) and has one thumb stud for a right handed user.
The pocket clip is pretty decent and the handle material is some plastic material, with diamond/checkered like pattern which doesn't add much grip, but is better than smooth plastic.

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thumb stud side

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Clip side
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Top of knife

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Tip is pretty close to being centred

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Knife open w/ smith & wesson Logo

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Logo close up

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Liner Lock (am i right?)

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Other side w/ taylor cutlery logo

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Close up, note the 'china 440'
It has some paint or something on it, i don't really mind, it was 20 bucks

Conclusion
You don't have to post its a shit knife, becuase I already know that
and for 20 dollars and a blade to occupy my hand until the one I ordered comes, it shall do the trick and I can take it on my upcoming hiking trip and not worry if I lose it.
One thing I do not like about it is its a bit hard to open it initially, as it kinda sticks in the handle, then once about a little bit, its a decent action, and you can open with your thumb/flick it open (uh oh customs :p)
EDIT:and I can't close it with one hand, but i can live with that and sorry for the random big image, wouldn't resize for me
 
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This is your first knife? Congrats!

First knives are like first cars - No matter how awesome or awful they are, they're special. :thumbup:
 
I dont think any knife is completely crap unless it isnt useful, then it is just a paperweight.
 
yeah i guess your right, but I mean I've been looking at BM and all these other nice knives, so in comparison it is, guess i still had benchmade and bark river on my mind.

Also does anyone know what it is?
 
Hey we all gotta start somewhere, none of us were born with an S30V spoon in our mouth.

I too have a S&W homeland security knife that was one of my first, got it years ago, back when I thought 30 was a lot for a knife!

Now I don't even like to total up what I've spent since then.
 
Congrats! What you have there is a great knife to get started with. Keep it sharp, learn to use a stone. Respect it and always remember that it's a tool, not a toy.
 
haha yeah, definately not a toy, about the sharpening the place I bougt it from I wasnt sure it had any sharpening stones, will need to check back but what would be a good thing to sharpen it with, just a stone like you suggested, coz I have absolutley no idea what to sharpen it with really, like the specifics of such, only thing I can do is steel mum and dad's kitchen knives, but thats not really sharpening, from what i understand, more straightening the edge out.
 
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Also does anyone know what it is?
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Huh? It's a S&W Homeland Security.

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=SWCK106

Per the link above the blade is 440C, which isn't bad, and it weights 3.4 oz which is pretty good.

I think that is a fine first knife. It should serve you well and it will be a very good knife to practice your sharpening on. There are a lot of threads on the Maintenance subforum about sharpening. You should read all you can about the subject and practice, practice, practice.

It the blade is too tight you might be able to loosen the pivot screw. If you don't have the correct tool the local hardware store should have one for only a few dollars.

Once you get the blade tension right you should be able to open and close it one-handed. It may take a little practice to get comfortable doing it. Be careful or the knife will bite. :)

Don't feel bad that you don't have a lot of money to spend on a BM. In fact I think you are better off starting with what you have. If you lose or damage it you won't be out a lot of money and you'll be better able to appreciate a really nice knife when you finally get one.

In fact there are a lot of really nice knives you could get that don't cost a lot of money. Personally I think I'd rather have several $20 or $30 knives instead of one expensive knife that I was afraid to use. For your next purchase look at the Rat 1 folder, the KaBar Dozier, the Spyderco Tenacious, and the Byrd knives.

Byrd knives are Spyderco's economy line and the Cara Cara is very popular here on BF.

Enjoy your knife and use it safely and legally.
 
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JCK said:
haha yeah, definately not a toy, about the sharpening the place I bougt it from I wasnt sure it had any sharpening stones, will need to check back but what would be a good thing to sharpen it with, just a stone like you suggested, coz I have absolutley no idea what to sharpen it with really, like the specifics of such, only thing I can do is steel mum and dad's kitchen knives, but thats not really sharpening, from what i understand, more straightening the edge out.
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Congrats on your first knife. Sure, it's no Sebenza but we all start somewhere and you could have done worse.

As far as sharpening goes, get yourself a Spyderco Sharpmaker. Sure, it's not the cheapest option but it's one of the best sharpeners out there, almost foolproof and great for beginners.

Do NOT buy it from a shop in Oz, especially do not buy from King of Knives, (AKA King of Thieves). Prices here are WAY over the top!

You may find one at a good price on Ebay however have a look here:

www.newgraham.com

Good prices and excellent people to deal with. The owner is a regular on this forum.
 
Looks pretty well made, fasteners look like quality products. Not a bad knife for $20 by any stretch.
 
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As far as sharpening goes, get yourself a Spyderco Sharpmaker. Sure, it's not the cheapest option but it's one of the best sharpeners out there, almost foolproof and great for beginners.
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Yeah 50 bucks from new grahams, pretty good price
Are there any pocket sharpeners to give it a quick edge touchup, that you know of.

@CGM Blade - its pretty good amount of resistance at the moment, but it clicks shut, and I was looking at the liner lock and when its partially open the liner lock is right against the side of the liner, however when i shut it completley, it will click and the liner lock will move over to the blade slightly, putting on a decent bit of resistance, a bit too much for one hand, but its probably like some sort of safety feature to prevent the blade from coming out when you dont want it to, maybe I'm just not used to it, since its my first knife

EDIT: its a great weight as there were others in the store, but alot heavier and almost 4 times the price, just been walking around the house with it inmy pocket, to see what carrying it all day hiking would be like, it pretty good, even if its not clipped in
 
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I actually like having a junk/beater knife or two, they're good to keep on you as loners so somebody doesn't borrow your BM to pry a nail out of the wall or something. They're also helpful for learning how to sharpen or if you get a new sharpening system in the future, you can get the hang of it on the beater first so you don't risk messing up the edge on your nicer knives.
 
was there a specific model? and do all bunnings have them?
oh and was there a specific technique to using them, they look like they were made for chisels maybe?
 
My local bunnings (lismore) has them , but they are like twice the price you can get em up the street . In US I think they are under 10$ , you can get em on ebay too.

Get the purple(medium) or red (fine) first the get blue (superfine ) later.

you just use them like you would a stone ,with strokes or small circles , evenly on both sides.
 
what if I were to buy a set of them, how much would that cost at lismore bunnings?
 
I wouldnt get em at bunnings , bunnings are a complete rip-off on these. I just checked ebay and there is a US seller selling one for about $10 AU shipped.
there are some other local sellers more expensive.

A cheaper option would be to get a buch of fine sandpaper from supercheap auto or someplace like that and glue them to a board , I think I remember others were using cheap mouspads ? thats probly youre cheapest most effective method. Have a look in the maintenance forum , for more info on sharpening. I believe You tube may have some how -to vids also
 
Theres no point spending more on a sharpening system , than your knife at this point . I think the sandpaper route is the cheapest , at only about 1$ a sheet.

The eze-lap hone and stone , is good tho if you can get a decent price. pretty compact too.Theres other brands , like maybe DMT .
 
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