2007 honda car that gets 80 mpg??????

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I saw the tail end on the news that honda is introducing a car that gets 80mpg. Does anyone know anything about this? I hear its going to be around 12,000. I love suvs, but if honda does come out with this car; im going to have to consider it. Imagine driving around all week for like 8 bucks.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109394
Note that the article says that Honda is not confirming that a hybrid Fit is coming to the USA, or to anywhere else.* But note the final paragraph:
What this means to you: An 80-mpg car for under $12,000 sounds pretty tempting.
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It is my understanding that the gasoline versions are to run $12K to $14K in the US, so less than $12K for a hybrid version is very unlikely. So what does that say about the 80mpg estimate?

* But if it is not getting one ready for production, why show such a production-ready version at the Detroit Auto Show?
 
FullerH said:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109394
Note that the article says that Honda is not confirming that a hybrid Fit is coming to the USA, or to anywhere else.* But note the final paragraph:

It is my understanding that the gasoline versions are to run $12K to $14K in the US, so less than $12K for a hybrid version is very unlikely. So what does that say about the 80mpg estimate?

* But if it is not getting one ready for production, why show such a production-ready version at the Detroit Auto Show?
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Hugh,
there are all kinds of other tweaks manufacturers must do to satisfy the US regs.


edited to add:
some guy modded his beetle to get 76 mpg.

http://www.green-trust.org/2005/09/vw-beetle-wins-fuel-economy-prize-76.html


and the vw lupo:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/consumer/autos/mareview/mauto497.htm


and an experimental 235 mpg car:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/company/press/ecocar


And I believe that vw has another 100 mpg tdi diesel engine in the works., but I can't find it righ now.
 
How many times do I have to say it? Car talk belongs in Gadgets & Gear!!! Please think before you post. :rolleyes:

Moving to the appropriate forum.

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80 mpg sounds reasonable on a small hybrid car.
I have a fairly big Toyota (Avensis, about the same size as a BMW 5 series) and can get 50 mpg if I try hard enough (the "real life" mileage is 33 - 36 mpg in the city and 40 on the road though). Quite a few cars can do 60mpg. The VW Lupo can do 78 mpg. All these cars are not hybrids! A hybrid uses the energy better so it can lower the consumption even more.
 
What on earth do you consider a full size sedan? I drive a crown victoria. That is full size. I can't even fit in a jetta.
 
2007 honda car that gets 80 mpg??????
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I'd buy one, as long as it looks like this:

2006.honda.s2000.jpg

Perhaps the best-built car that Honda makes, but it gets nowhere near 80mpg.

we don't need any more hybrid clown cars. we need a full size sedan that gets 40mpg
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First, my 11-year-old old Lincoln Mark VIII gets 28-32 highway, depending on conditions. That's nowhere near 80, but better than many new cars. Second, I wouldn't be caught dead owning a four-door. Third, if you don't fit into one of those bulbous Volkswagons, you probably can't drive a Honda; mine (identical to the car pictured above) has a 400lb weight limit, including occupants, luggage, and accessories.

Best Wishes,
-Bob
 
mycroftt said:
We need a full sized sedan that gets 40 mpg and isn't in the shop every few weeks...
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I had a diesel Passat and it was a damn good car, amost forgot where the garrage was located :) It wasn't very powerful but ate like a bird, 50 mpg on highway with a fairly charged car.
For diesel engines the combustible is important, especially for modern diesel engines that operate at very high injection pressure. If it's low quality (water, sulphur) the injection pump/injectors/engine won't live long. If it's good, it outlives a gasoline engine of the same size and quality.
 
flava said:
I had a diesel Passat and it was a damn good car, amost forgot where the garrage was located :) It wasn't very powerful but ate like a bird, 50 mpg on highway with a fairly charged car.
For diesel engines the combustible is important, especially for modern diesel engines that operate at very high injection pressure. If it's low quality (water, sulphur) the injection pump/injectors/engine won't live long. If it's good, it outlives a gasoline engine of the same size and quality.
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My wife had the Passat with 4 cylinder turbo. It was a great car to drive but was plagued with mechanical problems. First a coil pack fried and the car got "the hook". Ten days later, another coil pack fried and it was "the hook" again. Then some sensor went bad, then it was some valve...All told, it got "the hook" six times in the first 40K miles. Excellent customer service from the dealer - providing tows and loaner cars.

Then there was the oil viscosity breakdown. VW of America found a gap in the oil change history where the dealership had not changed the oil after the car had been towed in and denied the warranty claim. $900 oil change. Two weeks later, VW issues a revised owner's manual upping the standards for the oil - not admitting that the high compression, high heat engine when combined with the turbo is outside the spec of any commercially available oil. 15 months later after religiously changing the oil every 2500 to 3000 miles with the best and most expensive synthetic oil money can buy, there's the second oil viscosity breakdown. Even though there was an oil change 18 days earlier, claim denied because of previous gap in record. $900 oil change. Oh yeah, the turbo is fried this time - $2500. Warranty claim denied because of previous gap in oil change history. VW refuses to admit that their turbo is breaking down the oil.

We dumped the VW. I ended my 35 year relationship with their products. We bought a Toyota Camry. Great car.
 
I have the 6 cyl, I thought long and hard about the 4 turbo, But everybody said theat turbos are more trouble than they're worth.
 
mycroftt said:
My wife had the Passat with 4 cylinder turbo. It was a great car to drive but was plagued with mechanical problems. First a coil pack fried and the car got "the hook". Ten days later, another coil pack fried and it was "the hook" again. Then some sensor went bad, then it was some valve...All told, it got "the hook" six times in the first 40K miles. Excellent customer service from the dealer - providing tows and loaner cars.

Then there was the oil viscosity breakdown. VW of America found a gap in the oil change history where the dealership had not changed the oil after the car had been towed in and denied the warranty claim. $900 oil change. Two weeks later, VW issues a revised owner's manual upping the standards for the oil - not admitting that the high compression, high heat engine when combined with the turbo is outside the spec of any commercially available oil. 15 months later after religiously changing the oil every 2500 to 3000 miles with the best and most expensive synthetic oil money can buy, there's the second oil viscosity breakdown. Even though there was an oil change 18 days earlier, claim denied because of previous gap in record. $900 oil change. Oh yeah, the turbo is fried this time - $2500. Warranty claim denied because of previous gap in oil change history. VW refuses to admit that their turbo is breaking down the oil.

We dumped the VW. I ended my 35 year relationship with their products. We bought a Toyota Camry. Great car.
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What a nightmare! Are we talking diesel TDI (105, 110, 115, 130 or 140 hp) or the turbocharged gazoline one (150 or 180 hp)? I'm not familiar with the models sold in the USA. Anyway, they deserved to loose you as a client. I know a guy who got a similar story with about his car (factory defect, dealer asks national distributar who doesn't want to cover). He went to the dealership a couple of saturday mornings (full of future clients hanging arround) and made a fuss about the whole story, polite enough but loud enough to get noticed. The dealership decided to cover for the repair :D
 
flava said:
What a nightmare! Are we talking diesel TDI (105, 110, 115, 130 or 140 hp) or the turbocharged gazoline one (150 or 180 hp)? I'm not familiar with the models sold in the USA. Anyway, they deserved to loose you as a client. I know a guy who got a similar story with about his car (factory defect, dealer asks national distributar who doesn't want to cover). He went to the dealership a couple of saturday mornings (full of future clients hanging arround) and made a fuss about the whole story, polite enough but loud enough to get noticed. The dealership decided to cover for the repair :D
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This is the turbo gasoline model.

Like I said, I loved driving it - fantastic handling with a slight tendency to understeer (easily compensated by exagerating weight shift on braking into a curve), good low end torque and great acceleration when turbo is engaged (although I never can get used to the "turbo lag" - it's like firing a flintlock, click....wait a bit...wait a bit...bang!). The customer service by the dealer was great too. My beef is with VWOA and their policies which cost them a customer (as well as anyone I can convince to stay away).
 
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