2011 best sharpening system.

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4-5 years ago i got the lansky diamond sharpening system and sharpmaker but i find them both lacking. I can get a knife sharp but i can;t get them to scary sharp with mirror finish.

I also find them hard to use and very time comsuming. What is the best system for knife sharpening available now?
 
Depends on EXACTLY what your requirements are, and what you're going to be sharpening.

My personal choices on the "best" available, would be the EdgePro Pro, The Wicked Edge Precision Sharpener, and the Kalamazoo belt grinder with Trizact belts. You'll see people quickly recommend the paper wheels as well, but I can't speak to how well those work since I've not had a chance to use them. If you want the fastest working edge ever, the Kalamazoo is definitely the way to go, with the WEPS a close second. The EdgePro tends to take longer, but it turns out gorgeous finishes and is extremely versatile.

I actually use my Sharpmaker quite a bit as well, once you have the first major sharpening done and the bevels polished, I haven't found an easier way yet to KEEP it razor sharp. A few swipes on the fine or UF rods will quickly put the edge back onto a blade when it's just starting to go dull, and it's far more portable than the other three systems I mentioned. As long as you don't try to do serious material removal with it, the Sharpmaker is quite a good little system.
 
It depends- opinion, value, overall, best capabilities etc- I'd have to say sharpmaker and a leather belt because I can get scary edges

Otherwise- wicked edge all the way
 
You'll see people quickly recommend the paper wheels as well, but I can't speak to how well those work since I've not had a chance to use them.

It's one of the best if time is an issue.

This was done in between 5 and 10 minutes, although I wasn't timing myself. I went from dulled factory edge angle to a 20 degrees inclusive mirror polished edge in 3 grit steps. It will whittle hair.

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It's not the cheapest system, or the most precise system (human hands can only be consistent to a certain degree), and there are ways to get even sharper but it's a fast process that will get you pretty close (Three steps are the grit wheel, slotted wheel with 2 micron compound and an extra slotted wheel with 0.5 micron compound. The third wheel is not included in the kit, I added it for myself).
 
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Have to love a good polished edge! :)

I can get more or less the same with the belt in about the same time, makes a convex, though. At some point I'll have to get the paper wheels and try them out too. What setup are you running there?
 
I opened this thread thinking it was an announcement of an award for best system in 2011.

Honestly, the best is VERY subjective. There are MAJOR fans of almost every sharpener I have heard of (paper wheels, DMT, Sharpmaker, EdgePro, the list goes on).

The best is what you think...I really and truly doubt that we will ever realize a consensus on this forum.

I suggest you look around and see what appeals to you. Results are not the only thing to look at....skilled craftsmen can get incredible results on almost anything they choose to use. What I suggest you focus on, is what looks like something that you will enjoy using the most...because at some point you need to enjoy using it, and honestly I would rather do something I enjoy that works quite well, than do something I HATE that works a little better!
 
Have to love a good polished edge! :)

I can get more or less the same with the belt in about the same time, makes a convex, though. At some point I'll have to get the paper wheels and try them out too. What setup are you running there?

I added a few details in my post. The included 2 micron compound and the polish (slotted) wheel will produce a very sharp edge that will whittle hair but not be quite as reflective as a true mirror edge. It gives me a grabby edge that I love on my knives. The extra 0.5 micron step was purely to produce a pretty edge and what I consider a needlessly sharp edge that won't last very long so I rarely go that fine. :) They're mounted on a 6 inch bench grinder that's running at 2000 RPMs.

I would love to get myself a belt system to play with convex grinds. All I can do now is to approximate that sort of edge. After getting a powered sharpening system, I feel sorry for all my other sharpening tools. They never get used anymore.
 
Ah, very cool. I've considered seeing if I could build a shaft extension for a grinder to give it effectively four wheel mounting points, my only real theoretical gripe with the wheels is the limitation of only two grits per grinder. I'm amazed that only three grits gave an polish that fine. From solid-dull on my belt, I'd probably use a 120, 320, 15u, 9u and a couple leathers to get there. Be about the same time, probably, just a lot more belt changes. I prefer to use the heaviest grit I can for the edge I want, it's faster and heats the blade less.

I sure hear you on the powered/manual systems, though. As much as I love my EdgePro, it sees perhaps one in thirty knives I do. Unless I REALLY need an edge polished down to micron pastes and things like that, I head for the belt. I've got leather belts with green and white polish, by the time it comes off of there, it's sharp enough to do darn near anything you'd ever want a blade to do. And with that it's still only a belt-change away (about ten seconds, give or take) from the 80-grit belt I use for re-grinding broken tips. I've only been sharpening powered for a month or so now, and I'm already hooked for good. The EP will always have a spot on my shelf, next to the Sharpmaker and the bench stones, of course. I'm actually very slowly easing into semi-pro sharpening as a part-time job, and that belt grinder looks to pay for itself very quickly! I'd imagine the pay-off on paper wheels would be even faster, given their lower initial cost.
 
not looking for any belt systems or power tools.

after looking at the reviews online and youtube the Wicked Edge and Edge Pro are the best bets. With the new promo at wicked i'm leaning towards them.
 
They're both very good, when I made the call between WEPS and EP, it came down to the EP being in stock, and the WEPS being back-ordered. You'll be very happy with either one, I think.
 
I can't adress the WEPS, since I've not used one. But the Edge-Pro Professional has been a dream come true.
 
skilled craftsmen can get incredible results on almost anything they choose to use.

That's the hard part. I've got the Murray Carter DVD's where he sharpens on a cinder block and then strops on newspaper or cardboard. And I have no doubt that his edge performs quite well using those mediums. The guy is just phenomenal in his simplicicity when it comes to sharpening a knife. And yet, we make all this fuss about what system to choose or use. The sharpmaker does it's job equally well, aslong as you understand the basics of what makes a knife sharp. For me, the simple tip of knocking off the burr by trailing the knife through wood or cardboard under it's own weight, got me from sharp to really sharp using the sharpmaker! I haven't quite got to the point where I can replicate his results using waterstones, but I'm not too far from it. The Sharpmaker simply gives me a standard working edge....every time!
 
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