Recommendation? 2017 S&M Rail splitter

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Hi guys, I've been window shopping various online knife stores and came across an S&M rail splitter that had caught my eye. It was made in 2017 according to the vendor. From what I've learned from here on the forum, there was a period of spotty QC issues and I know that Queen is currently done right now. Is there anything I should be wary of in a 2017 production? It has the keystone shield inlay in it. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks!
 
In general, the newer Queens I bought have a lot of gaps between the springs and liners. This is on multiple models.

There are other fit & finish issues that each one has, but not what I consider major.

I will say they all have decent snap though!
 
I don't own any 2017 Railsplitters but I think I have 10 ranging from 2003-2014. Only two of them are what I consider free of any issues and those are all from 2014. Must have been a good year for Queen.

The last Queen knife I bought was a 2017 #69 Barlow. It arrived with a big honkin' crack in the handle that ran from the blade well, through the pin, and continued on to the backspring. It was cracked from top to bottom and it was new in the box from a dealer.

I strongly advise handling one first or making sure that it can be returned if defective.
 
I strongly advise handling one first or making sure that it can be returned if defective.

This has been my takeaway from buying Queen knives produced in the last few years. Sound advice! :thumbsup:

I decided to steer clear of modern Queen-made knives after multiple poor experiences, so my hesitation level may be higher than average. ;)
 
I've picked up 4 since 2013 I haven't had any serious issues with any of them. None of them have any blade rub and fit and finish has been acceptable.
The issue that 3 of the 4 have is the tang on the main blade is not as smooth as it could be. Feels like there are small flats on it.
 
I have around 25 Queen knives from the past 10 years. Only 6 or 7 are what I would consider comparable to a GEC in terms of fit and finish. The ‘Factory Test’ knives have been excellent, one of them has some of the best stag I’ve seen on a production knife.

Issues range from horizontal blade play, slightly wavy blade grinds, small gaps in the liners/backspring, less than stellar walk, as if the tangs aren’t ground very well. One knife (a Trestle Pines) has what I would call a mushy half stop, in that it has a half stop that rotates several degrees in the half stop position.

I only have one that I would consider an absolute lemon.... huge gaps in the liners, a cam tang that feels like gravel... it literally looks like there’s still scale on it from heat treat. The blade was the most deplorable thing.... not only did it look like it could have been 1/2” longer, it has the waviest grind I’ve ever seen. As Rusty1 said about his, you could surf on it! Being a D2 steel blade, I’m not sure how one would hope to ever sharpen it without a grinding belt.

EDITED to add that when I say the blade is wavy, I’m not talking about the edge, I’m talking about the main blade grind. It’s as if the cutler crinked the last 1/2” tip of the blade and this is a single blade knife! I think I kept it just because it’s such a shining example of a terribly made knife.

All of them have fairly strong snap which is something I like in a knife. Shields are sometimes glued instead of pinned with no apparent rhyme or reason.

I don’t want to scare you away from from Queen because they have some really great, unique patterns. If you need perfect fit and finish, I would say stay away unless it’s a Factory Test knife.

I’ve read somewhere around here that the Heritage Series tends to be pretty rough with very thick blade grinds. The ACSB line have all been pretty good in my experience.

Personally, most of the fit and finish ‘issues’ aren’t that big of a deal to me.

YMMV.
 
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Wow thanks everyone for the education. You guys are a wealth of knowledge and then some! Based on everyone's input I've decided to pass on the rail splitter. It's too bad since the pattern is really awesome looking. I did end up getting another S&M knife for a good price...I think. It should land next week.
 
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