I recently bought a knife off of ebay. It was listed as 25OT but when it arrive the tang was stamped "Schrade" over "USA 225OT" It looks very similar to the 25OT except it doesn't have a lanyard hole. The main blade also has the thumb pick located right at the angle change on the back of the blade (rather than further up toward the point like the 25OT). The second blade is not a saw like a typical 225OT but your standard skinner just like the 25OT. Also, neither blades have press lock like the true 225OT. What is this thing? Is it a fake or something that was only in production for a short time?
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225OT vs. 25OT Question
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kristoher,
The sheath for your knife is an older style. Your knife looks like a 25OT but if it does have the 225OT main blade it might be a repair.
Look at the rear bolster of the knife. It the channels are equal in height where the blades meet the bolster/backspring than the handle is from a 25OT. If the channel on the shield side is cut lower for the saw blade its from a 225OT. How the different blades happened? Mixup at the factory? Repair? who knows? Its unique and looks in great shape.
TTYL
Larry
The sheath for your knife is an older style. Your knife looks like a 25OT but if it does have the 225OT main blade it might be a repair.
Look at the rear bolster of the knife. It the channels are equal in height where the blades meet the bolster/backspring than the handle is from a 25OT. If the channel on the shield side is cut lower for the saw blade its from a 225OT. How the different blades happened? Mixup at the factory? Repair? who knows? Its unique and looks in great shape.
TTYL
Larry
Larry, Thanks for the help. The handle is definitely from the 25OT, but it does not have the lanyard hole at that end. Did Schrade ever make the 25OT without a lanyard hole? Is there any way to tell if it is a repair? It looks like it is in very good shape, but for $70 I don't want something someone repaired and is trying to pawn off as an original 25OT. The 225OT stamp is real strange, I am tempted to email the seller and see if he knows anything about it. Thanks again,
Kris
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kristoher,
Extracted from From Robert Clemente's book
The 25OT was produced from 1964-1993
From1964-1974 There was a lanyard hole.
"In 1974, the hole in the bolster for lanyard discontinued
In 1976, the hole in the bolster was reintroduced
In 1989, again, no hole in the bolster until the knifes deletion from the line in 1993."
Unless its a sloppy job It would take and expert to tell if the knife was repaired.
Hope that helps some.
TTYL
Larry
Extracted from From Robert Clemente's book
The 25OT was produced from 1964-1993
From1964-1974 There was a lanyard hole.
"In 1974, the hole in the bolster for lanyard discontinued
In 1976, the hole in the bolster was reintroduced
In 1989, again, no hole in the bolster until the knifes deletion from the line in 1993."
Unless its a sloppy job It would take and expert to tell if the knife was repaired.
Hope that helps some.
TTYL
Larry
I emailed the seller about this knife and here is what he said "That knife was purchased New in 1973, I believe if I am not mistaken, That back then, When Old Timer and Uncle Henry came out, The single bladed knife was a 125 OT and the double blade was a 225 OT and the same for the Uncle Henry 127 and 227. And I believe a few years later is when they started putting the saw blade in the 225 knife and then they changed the double blade to the 25 OT." Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Thanks again, this knife really intrigues me!
This may shed some additional light on your quest, here's what Robert Clemente states about the Old Timer 125OT Mustang:
pg. 79
It could well be that after the 125 first appeared as an Old Timer in 1972, the old 225 may have also been designated as a 225OT for a short period of time. It would have made sense and nothing Schrade has done surprises me anymore. I believe you have the real deal and maybe a rare one at that.
pg. 79
It could well be that after the 125 first appeared as an Old Timer in 1972, the old 225 may have also been designated as a 225OT for a short period of time. It would have made sense and nothing Schrade has done surprises me anymore. I believe you have the real deal and maybe a rare one at that.
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kristoher,
Dont worry about this one, it has confused a lot of us.
The 25OT the 125OT and the 225-H were all being made at the same time.
I wished they had simply made the 225OT be the 2 blade hunter (25OT) and come up with another number for the saw bladed knife. They changed a lot of the older standard numbering when they came out with the OT line.
I'll post a comparison list later tonight.
TTYL
Larry
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The 225-H: the H stands for Hole (lanyard or thong)
Dont worry about this one, it has confused a lot of us.
The 25OT the 125OT and the 225-H were all being made at the same time.
I wished they had simply made the 225OT be the 2 blade hunter (25OT) and come up with another number for the saw bladed knife. They changed a lot of the older standard numbering when they came out with the OT line.
I'll post a comparison list later tonight.
TTYL
Larry
P.S.
The 225-H: the H stands for Hole (lanyard or thong)
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Hey Redshanks, hope you don't mind if I interrupt a bit here but you mentioned wax on the blades. Is that used as a preservative to prevent tarnish / rust?