230grains....Sorry

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demoteamone

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It's nothing personal...but I don't understand how you contribute?, with you therad or post.
I think that give reader the opposite effect maybe."Have you ever asked your self this question"
Don't misunderstand what I try to say.
I love Busse knive, not All the busse knive, but I do love the ones that I have.
If you manipulate and break a few and do a thread about. I don't know how the People would see me.
I hope you get the point.
I'm sorry if I hurt you:thumbup:
 
I do enjoy his posts though, and I always get few loughs at his expense.

But hey he broke 'em and they are covered by warranty so it tells a lot about the knife maker who'd be willing to take 'em back and fix 'em.

But hey what do I know I'm hammered.
 
I think it's just a case of some comments in posts that were lost in translation between you two.

Shake hands and get past it. There are too many knives to fondle and mistreat to have a disagreement over little or nothing.

;)
 
lsheldon said:
I think it's just a case of some comments in posts that were lost in translation between you two.

Shake hands and get past it. There are too many knives to fondle and mistreat to have a disagreement over little or nothing.

;)
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Well said :thumbup: I think the same ....
 
i like his posts.it gives another demension compared to those who dont use there knives at all. his threads where jerry came in saying to return the knives no matter what the abuse was. was the decideing factor for me to go busse.
 
"it's a knife, it's not what it's designed for"

Jerry Busse has nurtured a philosophy and created a highly successful business model founded on rendering the above statement meaningless.

230grains is among friends here. Those who see the proposition differently comprise a very small minority, at least on this forum.
 
It is not to early, so Let's DRINK:D:thumbup:

I love seeing the blades getting pushed to the limit.
The best yet is the FFBM Jerry sent to Noss for destruction testing.
Reminds me why I am willing to fork over the bones to own them:thumbup:
 
demoteamone said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=729436


I don't understand how you contribute
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How do you contribute? He has a paid membership and positive feedback, contributes information to threads, and has great reviews with photo's. 230 pushes the limits of his knives that he payed for. Its his right to do what he wants with them and It clearly shows some do's and dont's for the rest of us. Knowing the limitations of your tools only comes through trial and error. If you don't wanna use your knives the way he does, then don't...but don't hate.
 
230 does exactly what these knives are made to do !
What's the problem with that ?
If I wanted a wussy knife I would buy a wussy knife !
 
I say if he breaks them, more power to him. :D

That's what Jerry wants, he wants us to beat on them. :thumbup:
 
I don't understand why people say that. every time a knife is broken and we're told exactly how it broke, what temperature conditions, how much force was applied, what direction the force came at the knife - we learn more about the knife and the steel.

I'd LOVE to say that manufacturers teach us enough about their heat treatments, steal choices, and geometries that we can know exactly what we can and can't do before their knives suffer damage or catastrophic failure. They don't. You have to delve pretty deep into metallurgy and material sciences before you can get a truly thorough idea of how a knife will react under a particular type of stress just by looking at the steel and the geometry. You have to guess at what the heat treat is like - generally this is gathered through destructive and (some) non destructive tests, something we don't have access to most of the time.

From the various busse/swamprat knives that have been broken and posted here I now have a pretty good idea about how thin they can go before breaking during battoning and prying. I know roughly the degree they can be bent before taking a set and then breaking. I know what will happen when the strike extremely hard materials like glass (my own breakage). I know how much force can be applied to the slabs before they skew (again my own breakage, as well as 230grain). I now know (thanks to 230grain) that extreme cold weather likely affects the durability of the steel, and extra caution needs to be taken if the edge is thin and it's sub 10 degree's F.

Had I never seen, heard of, or experienced these types of breakages I would have no idea of what the true limits of my busse knives are, only the limited explanation from busse: which includes 90 degree bend tests and concrete chopping. I'd walk into a situation where I needed (or wanted) to use it in a way that might break it having no idea what was coming.

If you break a busse knife, PLEASE post about it for the benefit of the community. At least, that part of the community that takes such breakages as educational rather than whatever it's being purported as here.
 
My opinion is 230 came into the Busse world with the mindset that INFI has no limits. I have found it will perform so well that it is easy to get this impression.

I feel for 230. I don't think he is a bad guy. I think he is just finding the limits for himself. No using a boss street with 260+ lbs of levered weight delivered to just the tip...don't grind sarsquatches to paper thin thickness...and so on. 230 and I had a slight disagreement and in the end we turned out to be better friends than before.

My opinion is 230 is alright :)

I didn't even read the thread that you linked to though.

Good morning btw ;-p
 
Some people like to use their knives very very hard. They are covered under warranty, so they can use it. I personally find some of the stuff done to knives a bit ridiculous but just because my view is different doesnt make the other persons wrong or right. Different strokes for different folks :thumbup::thumbup:
 
I enjoy any information that shows knives being tested to their limits by anyone and appreciate them doing so. I don't have the time or the funds to do as others have done, so when it happens it is a treat. Some of the things do leave me scratching my head though.

However, If there is a problem between two people it should be kept to themselves and resolved, not paraded in front of everyone for whatever reasons. This is Busse Combat Knives forum, not the Days of Our Lives forum.

To bad some peoples egos aren't nearly as tough as INFI.

BTW, IBTL.
 
I'm sure there's been guys around here for years putting Busse combat knives to the test. It helps aid with research and development to build knives tougher. Someones got to pick up the torch, and 230's pics of his putting Busse knives to the limits are fine with me. It only helps with deciding which knives i want. So i say carry on 230 we want to know. :thumbup: :thumbup: ;)
 
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