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paulaustralia

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Gday all , can anyone clear up something for me , i was reading some talk on the introduction of the oldtimer series way back , they said they
re-introduced the 2OT in the 70's and i see it in the catalog's , does this mean they were produced for sale , are only the origional 2OT's proto types if so how do we tell them apart.if it was the originals that were the proto's how many were made.
cheers Paul
 
G'Day Paul,I havn't actually seen where the 2OT was re- introduced in catalogs "in the 70's".Can you direct me where you have seen this?I have heard of one collector assert that they there was a subsequent reissue however I have never seen any evidence or even a verified knife from that period.
It is on record mainly due to Codger's delving into its history it was produced from 1959 through 1963 and there were reportedly only 13,149 produced with the final 516 shipped in 1964. There was a variant made for Sears Roebuck in 1959 only with 780 made.They have 'Craftsman' on an oval shield and are otherwise identical to the 2OT of the same year.
Both these examples are featured on Larry H Downunder Collector corner next to each other if you're interested.There is also the original 3OT as well featured which has the sheepfoot blade instead of the clip of the 2OT.There were perhaps a dozen protos only produced but this is the only one I have ever seen surface to date.I live in hope of seeing another.Trust this info helps. Hoo Roo


I should have mentioned the Collectors Corner of Larry Vickery's superb website Schrades R Us which he has just refurbished again.All collectors owe a debt of gratitude to Lrv for his work in maintaining the Schrade and Camillus and associated company's history's.
 
As Larry has mentioned, I've never seen anything about a re-issue of the 2OT in the '70's other than an obscure mention by a collector (and I can't remember exactly where I saw that...possibly an old post here, but never saw any more about it). If you do see it in the catalogs, I would be very interested in seeing it also.

Also as Larry mentioned, the 3OT was samples only. I've not seen another besides the one now in his collection.

And yes, Baer-sized kudos to LRV for his hard work in constructing and maintaining the Schrade Collector's resource site, and now the newly launched Camillus Collector's resource site. I cannot tell you how much time he has invested in scanning original archive and collector materials, building and arranging the files and correcting errors (mostly mine). The help he gives me in doing research behind the scenes is huge as well. Thank you Larry V.

Michael
 
Interesting stuff. :thumbup:

As you guys have mentioned...LRV's site is awesome, and a real treasure for collectors, IMO as well.

OK then, I had a question. Hmmmm, what was my...oh, yeah. When did the 2 bladed 3 OT shown at the site, become a single bladed knife (also on the site)? :confused:

Bill
 
Aw Shucks... BLUSH
Thanks
As I’ve said before it is a passion for me. Realizing I cant have all these knives I want to know and share as much info as I can. Keeping me busy on the web pages keeps me from buying. (Poor substitute!)
To that end I need more info all the time (addicted) so if anyone sees stuff missing needs correction (spelling counts!) or has something they want added let me know.
The Camillus folks have been just great sending me info.. Shall I start a challenge ;)

As for the 3OT.
Ill be updating the OT page shortly showing both versions. (I'll add dates)
The original 3OT (1959) never made it to mass production.

I initially wanted the OT and UH sections to be my knives which is currently true. Well there are a couple examples I cant get that I'm going to add pictures for from our other great collectors. I'll note the collector whom the knife belongs too.


TTYL
Larry
 
Well , i think there is some conflicting info going around coz now im confused. ill show ya what ive found , first if you go to the AAPK schrade OT model list is lists the
2OT approx 12 made sales man sample .
then you go to AAPK (google 3OT hit the link on 3OT)post a few from the top replying to the pics of the 3OT, this bloke is talking about the 2OT and the re issue in 1970's
and on the collectors of schrades site in the 73 catalog it shows the 2OT .

So i gather the AAPK list is wrong and the 3OT is the salesmans sample

And am i right that the 3OT sheepsfoot master blade proto type very few made then also , bearhead lockback made from 1986 also called 3OT nothing like the prototype.
 
The 3OT was a sample knife, made in 1959. It looked like the 2OT only it had a sheepfoot looking master blade instead of a clip master blade. It never made it to production. The 2OT was produced for a couple of years, and it is rare. Both are shown following pictures

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/corners/LarryH/pages/3OT.htm
http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/specials/pages/mycollection 013.htm

The 3OT that came out in 1986 is a completely different knife. It is not rare at all.

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/newOT/pages/3OT.htm

I'm not going to sort out the rest, or I might get as confused as you.
 
yea thats all what i have since deceifered from all this, every day you fill ya boots with more info i guess its what makes it interesting(the unknown.
thanks bloke
 
Paul,
What page in the 73 catalog do you see a 2OT?
I looked again..
Thanks
Larry
 
No Problem..
Here are some pictures from Down Under of a 2OT, 3OT and a craftsman..
Thanks to Larry H.

2-3OTandFriend.jpg

2-3OTandFriend%20(1).jpg

2-3OTandFriend%20(2).jpg

2-3OTandFriend%20(3).jpg

2-3OTandFriend%20(4).jpg
 
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