3" pocketknife at school?

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Hi, i go to a school where you are allowed to carry pocketknives under 3". Probably about half of the students have a knife on them at all times. I work at a bike shop after school, and it sometimes involves opening packages, opening boxes, trimming parts, etc. anyway, im just wondering if there is any way that it could be illegal to carry one, even though it's allowed by my school? also, is it possible for me to get arrested for having one, or would it just be confiscated? if it's any help, I live in MN. I'm sorry if it seems like a stupid question, i just need to know. Thanks!
 
First, welcome to Bladeforums.

Now, are you attending college, high school, junior high? Is it a public school or private?

When you say that you are "allowed" to carry a knife at school, have you read this in any school rule book? Have you been personally told this by any member of the schools administration (someone in authority)? Or is this something that you heard from students or someone else?

The reason I ask is because it's very easy for other students, and even school staff, to not really know the rules and give you wrong information. And if you are following wrong information, it won't be any defense against expulsion, or arrest, if you say "But someone told me it was ok". My advice is, make sure you get the rules in official writing.

I'm not familiar with Minnesota's knife laws, but if you are attending a public school, and if you have confirmed by an unquestionable source that it is in fact permitted for you to carry a knife with a 3" blade on public school grounds, then I would assume that it would be legal for you to carry that same knife on public streets (knife-carry rules tend to be more restrictive on school grounds than elsewhere in public). Of course, there might be specific laws pertaining to how you can carry it in public (conceald or open-carry). And different cities within your county might have different laws. So it's a good idea to know both your state and county laws, as well as the laws in any city within your county that you might be visiting.

And of course, this is the internet, and we are just a bunch of total strangers with unproven legal credentials. So keep that in mind when taking legal advice from people on the internet. I say, when in doubt, consult a local criminal defense attorney. Either that, or take your chances.
 
My suggestion is don't have any part if showing. And thank you for wanting to do the right hing.
 
I agree most of the time schools are more restrictive than other places, Also I agree 100% make sure you really are allowed to carry a pocket knife on you at school and it's been verified by a principal , or dean if your in college. I suggest calling your local police department, Everyone here in alabma thinks it's illegal to own and carry auto knives, but they sell them in stores, so I called my local sheriffs office and asked if it was in fact legal, and was read my states knife laws by an employee at the sheriffs office, IF you have any doubt you are breaking any rule or law , don't carry the knife until you find out for sure you are allowed to do so. That being said, Welcome to the Forums, anytime I see a younger generation of knife nuts I love it, just remember being a responsible knife owner helps give the community as a whole a better reputation, Good for you on asking questions about what's right and whats not, maybe someone from your town or state can chime in and help you out, I suggest calling your local police department though, and talking to someone at your school to make sure it is ok for you to have a knife on you.(might want to leave the knife at home on the day you ask a school employee weither or not in fact you can carry a knife to school)
 
Young man, you are to be congratualted for wanting to be a law abiding citizen.

But it's a shame you have to do this much thinking in order to make sure you won't get arrested for carrying a basic tool.

You may be able to find and read your local laws on http://kniferights.org/

IMO, most knife laws are so open to interpretation that there is no guarantee of not being arrested for something.

So what do you do? You educate yourself and do the best you can-- which is EXACTLY what you are doing!

BTW-- if you ask your school if it's ok, GET IT IN WRITING!

:eagerness:
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Im in a public charter high school. There is a form that they give out at the beginning of the year that we have to sign, the knife-carry rule is in that. I usually clip it on my pocket.
 
My interpretation of this page is that you'll be fine until you
- Start waving it around in public for no reason
- Tell a cop you plan to use it on people (even in self defense)
- Stab someone

I've been carrying in MN for 3 years. No trouble so far. Maybe I'm just good at concealing.

Also, a HS that allows pocketknives...lucky.
 
You are very lucky indeed! That is an unusual rule, especially since it is listed specifically in your code of conduct. As the above posters said, just don't make a big deal out of it. Also, don't try to push you luck, just abide by the rule as it is stated.
 
If you have a camera phone take a picture of the rules so it on that just incase the one in your pocket gets lost. In fact I make a copy and laminate it and put in your wallet and have the original tucked away in your binder. Make sure that the knife is 3in or under a lot of knives are advertised as a certain length but they aren't measured from tip to handle which is how I know they measure it in California and probably other states when it comes to legal limits but they instead measure the actual usable blade length. My ka-bar dozier is advertised as 3in which is why I bought it but it is actually closer to 3.1in which makes it illegal in 2 neighboring cities, had it been 3in it be legal. Kershaw on the other hand measures tip to handle and even state it in their FAQ on their website and I confirmed their measurements on my kershaw tremor to be accurate.

If you want a knife that isn't intimidating pick up a SAK and use that, it be hard to get in trouble with one unless you wave it around, pull it out needlessly, or do something stupid. After that something like a old school buck lockback wouldn't be intimidating. If you want something more modern a ka-bar mini dozier or some of the spyderco's would be the next best bet to not draw too much attention as they are practical and don't have a tactical look which I tend to see on the FRN and Zytel handles.

Oh and don't tap your knife if it in your pocket to make sure it is concealed when walking by a cop, teacher, staff, security, etc it's a dead giveaway your carying a knife and draws attention to you. If you carry on like nothing happens your good. If you end up being hassled because your carrying a knife remain calm, cool, polite (very important), and explain with confidence (not arrogance, it goes downhill fast) that you were trying to follow all the rules and these steps "X" you did to try to ensure you followed them and kindly ask what rule you were breaking and how to find out more so it doesn't happen again.
 
A high school that allows knives? You are one lucky boy indeed. I wish I could have carried my knives during my high school years.
 
If you have a camera phone take a picture of the rules so it on that just incase the one in your pocket gets lost. In fact I make a copy and laminate it and put in your wallet and have the original tucked away in your binder. Make sure that the knife is 3in or under a lot of knives are advertised as a certain length but they aren't measured from tip to handle which is how I know they measure it in California and probably other states when it comes to legal limits but they instead measure the actual usable blade length. My ka-bar dozier is advertised as 3in which is why I bought it but it is actually closer to 3.1in which makes it illegal in 2 neighboring cities, had it been 3in it be legal. Kershaw on the other hand measures tip to handle and even state it in their FAQ on their website and I confirmed their measurements on my kershaw tremor to be accurate.

If you want a knife that isn't intimidating pick up a SAK and use that, it be hard to get in trouble with one unless you wave it around, pull it out needlessly, or do something stupid. After that something like a old school buck lockback wouldn't be intimidating. If you want something more modern a ka-bar mini dozier or some of the spyderco's would be the next best bet to not draw too much attention as they are practical and don't have a tactical look which I tend to see on the FRN and Zytel handles.

Oh and don't tap your knife if it in your pocket to make sure it is concealed when walking by a cop, teacher, staff, security, etc it's a dead giveaway your carying a knife and draws attention to you. If you carry on like nothing happens your good. If you end up being hassled because your carrying a knife remain calm, cool, polite (very important), and explain with confidence (not arrogance, it goes downhill fast) that you were trying to follow all the rules and these steps "X" you did to try to ensure you followed them and kindly ask what rule you were breaking and how to find out more so it doesn't happen again.

SAK = Swiss Army Knife. Victorinox makes them.

Even people who are afraid of knives recognize that the SAK is a tool.
 
Make sure your ACTUALLY allowed to carry it. I never carried one at my last high school though about one third of the students did. One of the teachers confiscated a small pocket knife from a friend of mine saying it was illegal to have them in any schools in the state (This was in Texas last year). All the students carrying knives were outraged, stating that even the principal allows students to carry knives under a certain length. My teacher simply replied. "Our principal cannot determine which laws affect our school if they are STATE laws. To a certain degree. He was absolutely correct, and my friend never saw that blade again. Better to be safe than sorry, make sure your sources are correct
 
Hi, i go to a school where you are allowed to carry pocketknives under 3". Probably about half of the students have a knife on them at all times. I work at a bike shop after school, and it sometimes involves opening packages, opening boxes, trimming parts, etc. anyway, im just wondering if there is any way that it could be illegal to carry one, even though it's allowed by my school? also, is it possible for me to get arrested for having one, or would it just be confiscated? if it's any help, I live in MN. I'm sorry if it seems like a stupid question, i just need to know. Thanks!
I would obtain a copy of the student handbook from the principal's office or the office of his/her assistant and read it cover to cover. I can just about guarantee, in this post-September-11 world, that there is a paragraph or two about weapons on school property. Don't take anyone's word for it. Rumors are not an affirmative defense in juvenile or adult criminal court or during an expulsion hearing. You may want to mention this to your parents, since if you are a minor, they are responsible for you. I am not an attorney and my advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. Be very careful here. The last thing that you need would be facing the nightmare of simultaneous expulsion and criminal prosecution.
 
Yeah whats the school name? If i could get a handbook copy or google the name that would be great so i could do some research into that.
You are very lucky that you can do that. I have to stop off at home and pick up my knife from home when i leave from school to work.
 
Lucky bastard I live in MN too but my school I'm amazed does not have metal detectors and knife sniffing K9s. I probably have the biggest collection of anyone at school. I'm even getting a leatherman today
 
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