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mbjannusch

mbjannusch

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I picked this up because it looked interesting and have never seen one like it. Its not in the greatest shape. It has some pitting and corrosion. The scale looks like its pulling up on the sides although they seem tight. The scale. Take a look and please comment.


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First off, I would like to have permission to save your photo for use in threads,histories or seminars.

Second off, it is a home re-scale of the first model 301 (Schrade). Notice the grooved bolsters and the Schrade top-of-the-blade grind, that goes half way back over the long nail nic. Most likely your 'looseness' is caused because someone didn't know the only way to take it apart is to literally take it All apart. Not without some know-how.
I pick these up when I can cheap, and put them in what I call the odd-ball box....its had a long life by the looks of it.

Heres how the hidden pivot pin worked on those old Schrades...and Schrade/Bucks.....300Bucks

View is a slice right thru middle of pin.
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Here's how pin head key-holed in.
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I hoped you or one of the other very Buck smart guys would have replied. Is there anything I can do to help this knife, and how often do these come around? oh by the way you most certainly may use this picture for what ever will benifit the forum and Buck collectors alike.
 
You could re-scale it but the blade is well used. Its so much trouble to fix those I would just oil the wood and set it in the bunch so that knife could tell your others not to get lost or this could happen to you. Think of the frustration and time someone spent trying to figure out want to do and then the eventual shaping of the scales......

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Do you think if I sent it back to Buck the could do there magic, I know it's probably not worth the money but I've seen the Buck guys do some imazzzing things and it would be cool to have this old of a knife to talk bout.
 
Generally Buck says, IF someone has tried modifications ,that voids the warranty. On these old Schrades and older Camillus models the current policy is, if if falls under warranty conditions and it is a "meaning" knife it probably can be polished but not repaired, you will just get a offer of a modern replacement. The parts supply is drying up.....I think they are out of these Schrade blades......... Good Luck
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I agree with 300bucks. I'd oil it up, and sharpen it, and use it. There's still a lot of use in those blades. If it's too loose for use, set it up on a stand in a place of honor and say, "Gee, if it could only talk......." It has charactor and personality--those things don't come easy.

Jack
Another 300 fan.
 
Is this the Buck/schrade version of the Stockman? I wouldn't mind paying for the repairs just to referbish this piece of history. Does any body know when these were produced?
 
mbjannusch said:
Is this the Buck/schrade version of the Stockman? I wouldn't mind paying for the repairs just to referbish this piece of history. Does any body know when these were produced?
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You can always send it to Leroy Remer (Triple-R Knives)... He can tell you, if he can help you out... Just e-mail at (triple-r-knives@cox.net) or give a call... :thumbup: ...
 
mb. and any other interested party,

Lets just go ahead and hold Schrade 301 school while we all are here.....and the fact I am actually working on this at the moment.

The evolution of the 300 began with Schrade contract, then Camillus works and in 1986 Buck took home the 301,303,309,305 and eventually the 312,314 and 310Whittler. Other models, many special orders from SMKWs in Tenn., continued to come from Camillus, thru Buck, actually up to the day and a little after the factory offically closed as they unoffically assembled remaining knife parts for their auction..

Photo below is comparison shot of all 'three' of the Schrade contract 301s. Earlier in the thread was a single photo of the very first Buck/Schrade slipjoint the grooved bolster stockman which has NO model number on it. We call it a 301 anyway. The comparison shot shows the grooved bolster front view, the next version with NO grooved bolsters and then a rear view of the two variations of the second version.. Lets have a look.....
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Version 2 variation 1 is the one with nothing stamped on the back of the sheepsfoot and spey blades. Version 2 variation 2 has BUCK stamped on the reverse tang of the sheepsfoot and spey blades. No other differences occurr. So we have the grooved bolster as Version 1 and then two variations of Version 2 which has smooth bolsters.

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The next photo is a side by side comparison of the Schrade and Camillus 301 front face.
This is shown so that you are able to see the difference in rivet sizes.....Schrade larger with rounded top, Camillus small with flat, polished down top. Another quick indicator is the grind on the top of the clip blade that destressed the face edge. Notice it goes half way back over the nail nic. Camillus nail nics are usually deeper and darker in appearance. Schrade bolster ends are usaully more rounded than the Camis.
Thats all it takes to ID the three Schrade Bucks and tell the differences between Schrade and Camillus made 301s. Camillus verisons for another time.
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One thing you left out of your very informitive post is which came first? I am guessing the Schrade was first but I've been wrong before. Like always you are a wealth of info and your lesson was much appreciated.
 
mb, Thanks, I ASS-umed to much and made one of myself....corrected in original text to Schrade,Camillus,Buck.......300
 
300,
Any time you want to post a thread on the Camillus/Buck contracted knives I'd love to study it. I just can't get enough information on Buck knives. Its only people like you that keep the life of the Buck knives alive for the next Gen of Buck-a-holics. We all thank you and the others that make this site what it is, Amazing.
 
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