33OT pattern; "LTD", origin ?

[rprocter]

here's a pic of 4 knives, 33OT pattern:

S-W 234K
Schrade N.Y. 233
Schrade 33OT
Schrade+/USA LTD

my question is about the Schrade+/USA LTD, brass colored bolsters, black sawcut Delrin, "fancy" Schrade shield.

is this part of an SFO series ? or did Schrade on occasion just run a pattern in a slightly different "dress" and mark it "LTD" ?
any idea of year of production ?

of all knife patterns, the 2 blade jacks are my favorite and the 33OT pattern is a fine EDC; pocket friendly and cuts "above it's weight".
roland

 

[brady806]

roland that black sawcut with gold accents looks like my schrade cope---i will ck that knife tonight when i get home. the production may coincide with the "cope" knives????? ----brady

 

[brady806]

sorry roland im having trouble finding my pics from my new sony -- when i go to attatch the pics i cant find them--i'll figure it out soon----------brady
by the way, my cope (33 pattern) has a serrated sheepsfoot instead of the pen on the other side of the main.

 

[brady806]

ended up using my rig at work:grumpy:
would you happen to know the prod dates of the copes? i have 4 of them.

 

[orvet]

Brady,
Since the cope knife is an SFO I wouldn't know how to date it, as it doesn't appear in the catalogs.
Perhaps Larry or Codger have found some production information on them.

Dale

 

[rprocter]

Here is another Schrade with the same fancy shield as the 33OT in my o.p.: an 8OT pattern marked "LTD" with very attractive jigged bone and "Special Edition" etch.

i'm fairly sure this is pre closure, but does anyone know what this "Special Edition" commemorated and year of production ?
there are many diffent Schrades marked "LTD" in place of a pattern # and i find these difficult to place in a time sequence with other Schrades. (i line mine up, oldest to youngest for each pattern and i don't want any out of order !)
thanks, roland

 

[thawk]

Yes, same shield. Now you have to wonder if a person should date the different knives with the same shield from the same era, or consider that Schrade might have had a stash of left over shields (or blades) and decided to use them. That thought is only theoretical thought, and doen not apply to that particular shield or knives. Sometimes I find the shield and the blade or the handles might not corollate with each other.

On the whole though, I tend to consider LTD to be a "later" / SFO stamp. How much later and when / how they started using it, I do not know. I do know the 8OT SFO you have there is a post 2000 knife, pre 2004. It is the same bone handle and threaded bolsters as the 2000 Old Timer Classic series.

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/FLYERS/2000s/pages/SC00-CP171.htm

 

[Trent Rock]

here's a pic of 4 knives, 33OT pattern:

S-W 234K
Schrade N.Y. 233
Schrade 33OT
Schrade+/USA LTD

my question is about the Schrade+/USA LTD, brass colored bolsters, black sawcut Delrin, "fancy" Schrade shield.

is this part of an SFO series ? or did Schrade on occasion just run a pattern in a slightly different "dress" and mark it "LTD" ?
any idea of year of production ?

of all knife patterns, the 2 blade jacks are my favorite and the 33OT pattern is a fine EDC; pocket friendly and cuts "above it's weight".
roland

As expected===>
I like the one with the OLD TIMER shield!!! :thumbup:
nice knives Roland!!
Thanks for posting!!

 

[rprocter]

Quote Mr. T. U. Rock: "As expected===>
I like the one with the OLD TIMER shield!!! "
well that must make you a "Conservative Traditionalist", shunnin them other gussied up hunnies ! i like the hot racey ones , a little jiggin in the riggin!
roland

 

[rprocter]

Thanks Hal, 2000-2004 is what i need to know, other than: was a pre planned run; or EOD decision ? no idea why that should matter , but it does.
the EOD assemblies just don't have the same interest for me.
roland

 

[thawk]

Thanks Hal, 2000-2004 is what i need to know, other than: was a pre planned run; or EOD decision ? no idea why that should matter , but it does.
the EOD assemblies just don't have the same interest for me.
roland

With Schrade, there many knives that fit an EOD scenario that were not bankruptcy driven assembly 2004 knives. Schrade did this all the time in my opinion, especially in the 70's when there was a huge popularity of doing customized SFO's.

However, I think your thread here is very pertinent, and the LTD stamp lended itself to not necessarily being a single purpose pigeon holed blade stamping. It allowed for versatile usage, and I think often times the driving force for some Schrade released "Special" knives were surplus parts.

Not citing any particular example, many Schrade knives I see pegged as a SFO is in fact not that special. Many are ones we see just never made it to the point of getting the final etch, a serial number, or they have a differerent shield. It is always cool when someone finds a pamplet or a flyer, identifying like you said, a planned run.

I can envision many times when a few hundred knives were made, and then a sales rep inspects them and says, "Hey, that is not how they were supposed to look!"