4 new ones reviewed, pic heavy!

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Well, seeing as how I don't get this many knives within such a short amount of time, thought I post some crappy pics and type out a few words for each one. I'm also gonna do a little 1 out of 10 rating grade for each one to make it a little more interesting. Note that all ics were taken after a dip in the vinegar bath, so no new shiny carbon pics will be found here!

First up is the most recent acquisition, a Rough Rider stainless Barlow with yellow composition material, which is there generic plastic, similar to Case's yellow handle material. The most noticeable thing was the edges of the yellow handle, it was quite squared off. Quickly sanded it down all over and cleaned all the dust out of the knife, where I then noticed how far down the blades close. Or it could be worded how far down on the blades the nail nicks were ground. Take your pick, either way the knife is a bear to open. I do believe I will grind as pot out of the yellow and the bolster with the dremel to facilitate opening. Sharpness was actually good, especially as I'm not a sharpening nazi with a new knife (that comes 2 or 3 days later!) Fit & finish is pretty good & both blades do center up well. When opening the blades all the way, there is no snap however, just a thunk. Kinda weird, but whatever. Anyway, she's all sanded down and I washed the handle dust out in the sink and gave her a good oiling so in a couple days I'll dig out the dremel and give her a good grinding. For $8.50, it's a little better than I expected. Especially the bolsters, thought they'd be hollow aluminum. Price, country of origin, & everything else considered, I give the Rough Rider Barlow a 6 out of 10.

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Next, we have a Case Peanut in CV with yellow handles. Handles meet the bolsters very tightly all over. No over-exposed pins, backstop is flush. Everything one would expect out of a yellow Case, CV or stainless. Only complaint is the main blade, it appears that whoever ground it only ground from one side. It's so bad the the blade rubs on it's left side, the inside. That side was ground to a sharpness, and the bevel isn't off centered, it's kinda hard to explain, but the spine is kinda off to the left, not the center. Clip blade is fine, though. Both blades have half-stops and have good rests there before going to open or closed positions. Backstops aren't exposed and there's no gaps either. Payed $20.01 on ebay for this one, nib, so I'm not furious about it, but it will be going back to Case for repair in the future. I'm giving this one a 7 out of 10. Would have given it a 9 if the blade didn't rub.

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Third one up is a Case Swayback Jack with chestnut in CV. No complaints about this one, though it was very gritty upon initial inspection. Washed it out good in the sink and oiled it up, just fine now! F&F was spot on, both blades center up and were sharp. Handles look great and backstraps were great. Blades were ground perfectly and they open up well with a nice click as well. The swayback gets a 9 out of 10.

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Last up, we have the Tidioute #73 Scout in burnt carved stag bone, from Great Eastern Cutlery, or GEC. Excellent knife, this definitely had the most craftsmanship put into it. F&F is dead-on, blades center and lock up. No hot spots or rough edges on the handles or bolster. Shield is on tight and not crooked, like others have mentioned. Both blades were quite sharp, but they had the annoying etches with the serial numbers and the manufacturer's name. That was quickly taken care of with 3 hours in vinegar. The remaining residue wipes off easily, and I love the look of the blades now, can't even tell they once said "1 out of 50" now! This one gets a 10 out of 10, not because it's perfect, but because there's nothing else I could ask for in the knife.

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Thanks for the review on the #73. How big is it closed. I am eyeing one of those. Thanks.

-frank
 
Hi,

Very nice! Your new knives really cover the whole spectrum. From simple inexpensive users, to better, to really nice. :thumbup:

dalee
 
Nice reviews:thumbup: I'd give the manufacturers some slack on the blade rubs though.

Blade rubs are common on production knives and have only become an "issue with collectors" in recent times. If you look at many old knives you will notice that it is rare to find one that doesn't have rubs. It just wasn't a serious concern. They put their effort in making them good cutters, not collectable.

Blade rubs in handmades/customs is unacceptable but with all multiblade folders, there is a sequence in which the blades should be opened so that you don't push a blade into another blade or liner.

Anyway...that's my schpiel on rubbage, FWIW.:)
 
Nice reviews:thumbup: I'd give the manufacturers some slack on the blade rubs though.

Blade rubs are common on production knives and have only become an "issue with collectors" in recent times. If you look at many old knives you will notice that it is rare to find one that doesn't have rubs. It just wasn't a serious concern. They put their effort in making them good cutters, not collectable.

Blade rubs in handmades/customs is unacceptable but with all multiblade folders, there is a sequence in which the blades should be opened so that you don't push a blade into another blade or liner.

Anyway...that's my schpiel on rubbage, FWIW.:)


If Rough Rider can produce knives without rub, why can't Case?
 
If Rough Rider can produce knives without rub, why can't Case?

I don't know what you mean by that question. Either "every knife RR makes has no rubs" or "every knife that Case makes has rubs" Which is it? I don't think either is true or is that important.

I can make blade rubs by opening it improperly. Also, It is possible to make a knife so thick that there is no way you could ever bend the blades and rub them on anything else in the same knife. The RR I have seen have fairly thick blades and plenty of space to run and play. Thin blades cut better and bend easier. Case blades are thinner. (sorry...you brought up the Case/RR comparison)

What I was trying to point out is that rubs were common and that it should be considered low on the issue list with production knives. It is an issue with customs and handmades and that some knife people are getting them confused, placing unreasonable expectations on manufactures.

Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law.:D

And I agree...screwthe49ers. I never like them after Joe left :p
 
I don't know what you mean by that question. Either "every knife RR makes has no rubs" or "every knife that Case makes has rubs" Which is it? I don't think either is true or is that important.

I can make blade rubs by opening it improperly. Also, It is possible to make a knife so thick that there is no way you could ever bend the blades and rub them on anything else in the same knife. The RR I have seen have fairly thick blades and plenty of space to run and play. Thin blades cut better and bend easier. Case blades are thinner. (sorry...you brought up the Case/RR comparison)

What I was trying to point out is that rubs were common and that it should be considered low on the issue list with production knives. It is an issue with customs and handmades and that some knife people are getting them confused, placing unreasonable expectations on manufactures.

Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law.:D

And I agree...screwthe49ers. I never like them after Joe left :p

I'm just saying that although Case does put out a better knife altogether than RR, if RR can make many knives I've owned w/o rubs, why can't Case? A Case Peanutw/ yellow and CV is nt a collector piece, it's a knife to be used. A blade rubbing when it's closed and it rests against the liner will dull itself so quickly it's not funny.
 
I'm just saying that although Case does put out a better knife altogether than RR, if RR can make many knives I've owned w/o rubs, why can't Case? A Case Peanutw/ yellow and CV is nt a collector piece, it's a knife to be used. A blade rubbing when it's closed and it rests against the liner will dull itself so quickly it's not funny.

Dang! Yea if it's hard against the liner all the time, that isn't what I would call a "rub". That's a defect! Case will fix or replace it.

Rubs are momentary and occur when opening or closing blades.
 
The main blade rests against the liner if the blade is closed, period. I would've returned it to the ebay seller, but I checked his inventory & he didn't have another one in stock. It was such a steal, plus I had already put a patina on it since I hate a shiny carbon blade. When I get pissed enough about it, I'll send it in. Hope their cust service is good and turn around time is quick, I'm spoiled by Kershaw's excellent service.
 
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