5 mm "para" cord

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Hello Everyone,

I've heard about this smaller diameter cord and saw some today at REI. Has anyone used this stuff in the field? I don't expect it to hold up like good old seven strand paracord, but it seems like it might be a good choice for more basic lashing tasks as well as good lanyard material. A little smaller diameter will let me carry more cord and I certainly like that idea. Of course the new wave colors aren't so great. OD Green or basic black would be much more to my liking.

Any thoughts?
 
I believe the stuff you saw at REI was climbing ACCESSORY cord. It is plenty strong, but proportionately a little heavier than 550. It is basically a small diameter climbing rope- the kernmantle construction is the same- but you may find it a bit stiffer and less pliable than the 550 you are accustomed to. I used to stock and sell 3, 4, 5, 7 and 9 mm sizes at my old store. It can be used to fix rigging, guy your shelter, lace your shoes or 'dummy-cord' your gear. I agree with your view on the 'fashion colors'- I'm an earth tones kinda guy myself- but they do improve visibilty when holding up your tent and such.
 
On a small tangent, I remember a National Geographic article several years ago about some climbers who went to Russia to do some alpine climbing. They used 5.5mm kevlar cord instead of regular 9mm alpine rope because of the weight savings. Of course the stuff at REI is perlon (?) and not strong enough to support much of a fall.

I used to hike with a guy who carried ~50ft of 9/16in tubular webbing in addition to ~2-3mm cord. The webbing would work for a rope in a pinch and also could serve special purposes for odd chores where width is an advantage.

I carry a 65ft length of 8mm static line for obstacles like streams and small cliffs.

5mm perlon is kind of a bastard size in my opinion. Too big for small jobs; too weak for heavy loads. Maybe hauling a pack up a wall. . .

Scott
 
I climb for fun, and you'd be surprised at just how strong some of the accessory cords can be. 5.5mm Spectra(4000 lb tensile strength)and 7mm Perlon are the 2 main sizes I use for threading hexes and such with cord. I'm not familiar with the cords stocked by REI(mainly because I order in bulk, direct from the rope companies), but to give you examples I'll use New England Ropes http://www.neropes.com

One thing that you need to be cautioned about is that accessory cord is not designed to be used as a climbing support. It may be strong enough, but there are differences in manufacturing and caution rules when it comes to equipment manufacturers. Here are the listed strengths for the NE Ropes Accessory cord. 3mm 405lbs, 4mm 720 lbs, 5mm 1125lbs, 6mm 1620 lbs, 7mm 1200lbs, 8mm 2875 lbs.

Technora cord (Tech Cord) from NE Ropes comes in 3mm and 5mm diameters. the 3mm is very light, at about 7/10ths of a lb per 100 feet, and the 5mm is about 1.7 lbs per 100 ft( I don't know offhand the weight of 550 cord). Tensile strength on these 2 cords are 3200 and 5000 lbs, respectively.

Tech Cord is used as emergency rappel line by some people(though you really have to take care about abrasion, if it's not going to be one time use), and if used as such, make sure to get a micro cord sized descender and learn how to use it, as part of the friction with a standard descender depends on the diameter of the cord.

The main difference between a Tech Cord and an Accessory Cord is that a Tech cord is designed to handle a much higher shock load, whereas accessory cord deals mostly with static loads.

If you're looking for a high strength low weight cord, you can't go wrong with the 3mm Tech Cord from NE Ropes(and yes, it even comes in black). The Main negative about tech cord vs 550 cord or accessory cord is, because it is designed to handle a much higher load as compared to it's diameter, is that it is very exensive(IE $700ish for 1000ft). Accessory cord is still more expensive than 550 cord, but much less expensive than tech cord. (prices, 3mm $0.12 a foot, 4mm $0.17 a foot, 5mm $0.24 a foot, 6mm $0.30 a foot, 7mm $0.37 a foot, 8mm $0.45 a foot.)

Oh yeah, one last comment, for those of us who do climb bigger walls, and need to haul a pack, we generally prefer a 8-9mm cord that is designed as a haul line. The reason we use cords like this are abrasion resistant(you have no idea just how much abrasion you get on a wall until you've been there) and they can be used as rapell lines in a pinch with the standard descenders that we use for our normal ropes(for me, on walls, it'd be either 11 or 11.5mm).

If you've got more questions, just lemme know.

TC
 
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