520 Presidio issue

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So I purchased a 520 a while back and really like it overall, but can't get past one issue. With every other BM I own, I can easily find that sweet spot that allows smooth deployment with minimal blade play, but with this one I cannot. It's either too tight with no play or smooth and flickable with too much play. I have tried disassembly, cleaning, lubrication, etc. with no luck. Upon disassembly and inspection of blade and washers I did notice an uneven or "warped" wear pattern on washers and blade where washers contact. Could I simply have washers that are uneven? Should I send it in or just request new washers? What are your thoughts?
 
Go to the hardware store and spend 50 cents on new washers. Faster and cheaper than sending it in.
 
...and if you can't find the right washers, a trip to the Spa could still make your knife right.
 
Update and resolution:
Swapped washers from a silky smooth 15020 Bone Collector, lightly lubed the washer contacts on the blade and all is good. Also, oddly the BC was relatively unaffected.
 
I've had this problem with Benchmades since I started collecting. Not all but a majority of the models I have owned had the non existent sweet spot. I have fallen in and out of interest in Benchmade because of this but after recently getting another 710 that had no sweet spot I decided to really research into it. I ALWAYS see posts from satisfied Benchmade owners and just didn't understand why mine never were up to par. I stumbled upon a post on here by Lennyo that really shed light on the problem.

In a nut shell, the width of the blade + washers was way off compared to the width of the backspacer, causing the liners to not be parallel. This meant if the pivot was tightened down to eliminate play the washers were being pinched some where on their radius bogging down the action. This explains the weird wear pattern on the washers as well as why swapping washers seems to have fixed it.

On my 710 I noticed when I left the handle screws completely loose my 710 would operate as it should. I could dial it in to have zero play but still very smooth. Also when I would tighten the handle screws down I could feel with my thumb on the spine of the handle that the liners were bowing inwards at the screw points. After reading Lennyo's thread my conclusion: the backspacer was undersized compared to the blade+washers stack.

Well I couldnt add more material to the spacer so my only option was to reduce the size of the blade+washers. I used 1000 grit sand paper on glass to sand down the washers, reassembling the knife every now and then to check progress. I ended up with a perfect 710, rock solid pivot with a smooth action. It's not free swinging smooth... yet, but I'd rather have that final stage of breaking in to happen naturally. It's plently smooth as is.

Thought I would share my experience as it really made me dislike BM, although I LOVE their designs and the axis lock, their fit ruined it for me. I am competent enough to fit my own knife so I'm a happy camper now.
 
I've had this problem with Benchmades since I started collecting. Not all but a majority of the models I have owned had the non existent sweet spot. I have fallen in and out of interest in Benchmade because of this but after recently getting another 710 that had no sweet spot I decided to really research into it. I ALWAYS see posts from satisfied Benchmade owners and just didn't understand why mine never were up to par. I stumbled upon a post on here by Lennyo that really shed light on the problem.

In a nut shell, the width of the blade + washers was way off compared to the width of the backspacer, causing the liners to not be parallel. This meant if the pivot was tightened down to eliminate play the washers were being pinched some where on their radius bogging down the action. This explains the weird wear pattern on the washers as well as why swapping washers seems to have fixed it.

On my 710 I noticed when I left the handle screws completely loose my 710 would operate as it should. I could dial it in to have zero play but still very smooth. Also when I would tighten the handle screws down I could feel with my thumb on the spine of the handle that the liners were bowing inwards at the screw points. After reading Lennyo's thread my conclusion: the backspacer was undersized compared to the blade+washers stack.

Well I couldnt add more material to the spacer so my only option was to reduce the size of the blade+washers. I used 1000 grit sand paper on glass to sand down the washers, reassembling the knife every now and then to check progress. I ended up with a perfect 710, rock solid pivot with a smooth action. It's not free swinging smooth... yet, but I'd rather have that final stage of breaking in to happen naturally. It's plently smooth as is.

Thought I would share my experience as it really made me dislike BM, although I LOVE their designs and the axis lock, their fit ruined it for me. I am competent enough to fit my own knife so I'm a happy camper now.

Wow, that makes a lot of sense. As I said, all others I've never had an issue with but this one stumped me. Not enough to ruin me of BM but enough to dislike the knife. I see this being more of an issue on knives with plastic or g-10 spacers than ones with milled standoffs.
 
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