5th Version, variations 1, 2, and 3

bertl

bertl

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I've been looking at 5th Version, variation 1,2, and 3 110s. These are recognized by differences in the blade stamps; however, I think the blade stamps are just indicators of a change. In other words, a knife is not variation 2 because it has an inverted "Buck/110/usa" stamp; it is variation 2 because there has been a structural change and the blade stamp indicates that change, which might not be seen without tearing the knife apart. For variations 1, 2, and 3, there may be slight changes in the blade. There seem to be differences in the exposed part of the tang. Take a look at the photo.

I guess my question is, "Are there any differences in 5th Version variations 1, 2, or 3 other than the blade stamps?"

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Bert
 
I only know of one difference: The Second Variation moves to the stainless rocker bar rivet.

That's it.

:)
 
"I only know of one difference: The Second Variation moves to the stainless rocker bar rivet.
That's it." - BG42EDGE

I think that happened in 4th Version, variation 2.

Bert
 
Oh, yeah.....strike the rivet.....must be the spacer I'm thinking of.....I'll check actual notes. Memory not reliable.

:)
 
Well, my notes must be off.

They show change of rivet in both fourth and fifth.......obviously I didn't get a memo.

:D
 
I never noticed this before, but it looks like that rivet was changing around some in that time period and you could find brass or stainless rivets in some examples of both Fourth and Fifth Versions according to the notes I have.

Maybe, as I said, I just didn't get a "change" or "edit" memo.....but that's what my notes are telling me.

:)
 
BG, you are right about the change in the rocker rivet. The Houser data sheet lists "brass, stainless?" for the 5thV, v1. However, I don't have a 5th Version with brass; the stainless seems more common. I get the impression that changes were sometimes gradual with the early knives. Availability of parts may have resulted in some variation during transition from one design to another, or maybe someone working on the line didn't get the memo about a change.

Bert
 
It was during that time that Buck replaced the cast brass handles with forgings and later during the 'dots'-- sintered brass w/ no felt liners. DM
 
What about slight changes in blades among variations 1, 2, and 3? Does anyone have a comment?

Bert
 
Availability of parts may have resulted in some variation during transition from one design to another, or maybe someone working on the line didn't get the memo about a change.
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Yeah, Bertl......you're right. It was one of those periods where parts were changing around a lot and odd things happened.

Similar to, but not as wild as the Third Version period around 1968 when there was an explosion of variations.

:)

Anyhow, I have no information that would lead me to believe the changes in stamps in the years you mention signified any mechanical changes in the knife.
 
bertl said:
BG, you are right about the change in the rocker rivet. The Houser data sheet lists "brass, stainless?" for the 5thV, v1. However, I don't have a 5th Version with brass; the stainless seems more common. I get the impression that changes were sometimes gradual with the early knives. Availability of parts may have resulted in some variation during transition from one design to another, or maybe someone working on the line didn't get the memo about a change.

Bert
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I was going to point out that my untrained eye sees a variation in the blades in your pic. The bases have different shapes.
 
LOL. I didn't read the last sentence of your original post. Feel kinda stupid now. But, that's the first thing I noticed when I looked at the photo.
 
BG, you are right about the change in the rocker rivet. The Houser data sheet lists "brass, stainless?" for the 5thV, v1. However, I don't have a 5th Version with brass; the stainless seems more common.
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Well, you've certainly given me a "heads up" to keep an eye out for a fifth version with a brass rocker rivet. I had never even noticed this little tidbit of information before.

:D
 
I have a inverted 3 liner but mine has the stainless rocker pin. So, it must be variation 2. DM
 
Hi, I'm brand new to this forum. I've gone through my dad's old survival box, from 1974, and found a Buck 110, 5th version, variation 3, Buck 105 fixed blade knife and a buck 106 hatchet. I'm having trouble finding a value on these items. Can anyone help me. I don't believe these have ever been used, since they were for the end times survival period. Thanks
 
Well, on this forum we're not supposed to ask about value unless we have a paid subscription to the website.
Your best bet is to look around on ebay, and see what the most recent prices have been.
Welcome to the Buck section; hope you stick around.
 
Yeah, I'd love to hear what the "end times survival period" is.

Stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues again???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9LDBEtKK4

Anyhow, I don't see how the END would have a survival period.

I do prophesy that you will get some "want to buy" e-mails, though.

:D
 
fsbr, Welcome. Don't let him bother you. I know exactly what your refering to but can't give values on this forum. DM
 
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