6 inche blade vs Grizzly...really and the blade won

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Think you're man enough? Well a 68 year old man did it and lived! It was in my local paper today. Here is the story copied from their web site. It's a bit long.Sixty-eight-year-old Gene Moe couldn't have been in a more vulnerable position when the Kodiak brown bear came for him on Monday.

He had nearly finished butchering a Sitka blacktail deer. The animal's hide and quarters were set aside near his rifle. His hands were inside the deer's carcass, removing the tenderloins.

That's when he heard slobbering and the thunder of heavy feet coming through the devil's club in a thick patch of forest on Raspberry Island, 35 miles northwest of the city of Kodiak.

The hunter, a 50-year Alaska resident, looked up to see a charging bear less than 10 feet away.

His first thought was that his time had come.

Looking up to see the bear, Moe recalled from his hospital bed Wednesday, "I know I'm done."

But he wasn't going down without a fight.

The Anchorage contractor, whom a nephew describes as "one tough old buzzard," figured he had just enough time to do what damage he could with the weapon at hand - a hunting knife with a 6-inch blade.

"I tried to get him in the eye the first time," Moe said. "But I missed. I hit his head."

The animal didn't seem to notice. The knife bounced off the bear's thick skull.

After knocking Moe down, the bear clamped its jaws on his right shoulder and started to shake.

"This one wanted to kill me," Moe said.

He could think of only two things: keep the bear away from his face and hang on to the knife.

Bears, he knew, instinctively try to grab for the head of an adversary - be it another bear or a man - to disable it.

The knife, he knew, was the only hope he had of fighting off the animal - no matter how pitiful a weapon it might have been under the circumstances.

Moe is unclear about what happened next, but the bear eventually let go of his shoulder and grabbed his leg. By now he was a wreck, with cuts all over his arms, legs and shoulders. But his spirit remained strong.

With an arm free, Moe could finally fight back.

He stabbed the bear again and again and again with the 6-inch blade, driving the knife in as deep as he could. He doesn't know how many times he stabbed the bear. He doesn't know whether the blood that coated everything was his or the bear's.

All he knows is that he was fighting for his life.

"Finally (the bear) backed away and went over and laid down," Moe said. "Probably the 10th or 15th or 20th time I stabbed him."

With the bear close by, Moe somehow found his rifle.

He pointed the barrel of the rifle at the bear, who was just 8 to 10 feet away. He remembers thinking he loaded 220-grain slugs in his .30-06-caliber rifle because the big bullets are capable of killing a bear.

He shot the animal in the chest, he said. The shot, he said, probably killed the bear, but Moe fired twice more to be sure.

Afterward, he thinks, he heard brown bear cubs bawling from the brush. He remembers worrying that they might come for him next.

Unable to stand, let alone walk, Moe started crawling toward the beach, dragging his rifle.

"I had to crawl for about a mile and a half," Moe said. "I laid down to die a couple times" along the way, he said.

Each time, though, he found the resolve to continue. More than once, he prayed.

"The Lord let me out," he said.

Moe pressed on. About a mile from the beach, he finally abandoned the rifle.

"I wanted to keep it because I was worried about the cubs," he said, "but it was too much (to carry)."

About 200 yards from the island beach and not far from the hunting camp, Moe's son and two other hunting companions heard him crawling through the underbrush and investigated.

They were shocked by what they found but immediately began first aid - stuffing whatever they could find into gaping wounds in Moe's shoulder, arms and leg.

"You're in such shock at that point," Moe said, "you don't know anything."

After loading Moe into a skiff, the group headed for the nearby Silver Salmon Lodge. Lodge owner Peter Guttchen patched Moe up a little more and called the U.S. Coast Guard in Kodiak by cellular phone.

The Coast Guard had a rescue helicopter on the scene in minutes.

On Wednesday morning, a still-sedated and groggy Moe couldn't thank all the rescuers enough. Without their help, he said, he wouldn't be alive. As it is, he is expected to recover.

"I protected my head and face," he said. "It's my arms and legs that are a mess."

Moe had lost deer to brown bears while hunting in the Kodiak area before, but those bears never attacked.

"I never thought this would happen to me," Moe said.

Now, that's a tough guy! He's in a world of hurt buy he had the grit to make it. My hat's off to him. By the way the same paper had another story about another hunter who didn't make it. Different encounter entirely. Bears 1 humans 1. Wooooo Hooo!

shiro
 
shiro.

This sixty-eight-year-old Gene Moe is a real survivalist - fighter - full of desire to continue alive ... maasha-Allaah!

Do you have a 12" Sirupati or a 12" Silver Mounted Dhankuta? Make sure you have one of those model with you when you go for hunting!
 
Dang. Unreal. There's a guy out there that regularly hunts wild pigs with a knife, name of Larry Harley. He designed a double-edge assymetric dagger with a deep-finger-groove grip called the "Battle Bowie". It's designed as a straight thrusting knife with a rigid grip, probably the best knife possible for this situation.

Even a heavy Khukuri wouldn't be as good because an "overhead smash" approach on a big Grizzly or Kodiak Brown just wouldn't work. Even rifle rounds have been known to bounce off that skull armor that also serves as an anchor for the jaw muscles. They could shrug off an overhead smash to the skull with a 20" Ang Khola...a 200 to 300lbs Black bear could fall to one. I think Himalayan bears are about the same size. A Griz can top 1500lbs, it's a whole 'nuther class.

But whatever you have: FIGHT. Don't give up.

Jim
 
Jim, Do you have any info on Larry(lonesome pine knives)? I have seen his work in the past but haven't heard anything from him lately. The only piece of his that I have actually held was a 7" BB designed for sticking another form of swine! Nice work.
 
Larry is a character...he hangs out on rec.knives (the newsgroup) *only* so far as I know. I've only handled the Paragon production versions in AUS8 versus his handmades; the Paragon is supposed to be a fairly authentic copy but Larry says he got screwed pretty bad on that deal.

He does both stock-removal and forging, oddly enough. He doesn't post much and what he does is VERY short and...well, not well written. I suspect he's a type of person I've met twice now, extremely creative but dyslexic and poor with the written word. This doesn't mean "stupid", it means "brain wired differently but in a good way". By all accounts he's very honest, and he's got *guts* to spare!

He has a good rep. I was pondering the BB in ATS34 and micarta, his "lowest grade handmade" and it was about $300 with an 8" blade mebbe a year and a half ago. That's his standard pig-killer blade, and like I said, my #1 choice versus a bear. EMail is: hrlyblade@aol.com - if that's out of date, ask on rec.knives, they'll know.

Jim
 
Couldn't run that address. Where is rec. knives? I tried rec.knives.com and it didn't go. Is it part of this forum? I'm new to this and getting lost is my specialty!
 
Believe it or not, there are a handful of fellas in south Texas who take wild boars using only knives and dogs. They use the dogs to run the quarry tightly into some brush,then, when the boar's movement becomes restricted, one of the guys goes in with blade drawn. The hunters get cut up pretty badly sometimes, and sometimes the boar gets away, but more often than not, the boar is the big loser. The next time I see these guys I'm going to introduce them to khukuris.
 
I know that some people down South hunt boars with spears manufactured by Cold Steel. One model is specifically designed for hunting boars. I'd prefer one of those over my khukuri, but I'd still bring it along as a backup weapon.

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Bob
 
Re: rec.knives - rec.knives is a "usenet newsgroup" - usenet PRE-DATES the world wide web by well over a decade, it's almost as old as EMail. You ain't gonna get there with a web browser, at least not in any simple fashion.

Usenet is the "ancestor" to web-forums like this. It's a purely text-based message posting system with about 50,000 discussion areas.

You need a "news reader" program - go download Forte "Free Agent" for one example. You can also configure the mail program in Netscape 4.5 or greater or Outlook Express 4.0 or greater as news readers - in all cases, once you have a news reader you must plug into it the "news server address" of your particular ISP's "news server". Once you've done that you can download the full list of newsgroups fed by that server, it'll generally top 30,000 and if there's one you're missing you can tell your ISP to grab it. Rec.knives is extremely popular; you punch that in, hit the "subscribe" button and it'll start pulling in recent messages. Then it's a bit like here; there'll be messages you can read and reply to, etc. A lot of our terminology such as "threads" we use on this forum are usenet terms.

EMail me in private if you need more help. There IS a way of reading news off the web, www.dejanews.com is a free gateway. But they've thrown on so many ads and weird options it's extremely difficult for ME to sort the silly thing out, it's a disaster. Stick with a genuine newsreader, either standalone or one attached to an EMail program.

Jim
 
DejaNews was a great idea that is now completely buried behind junk. So is Amazon.com.

For a look at the future, try www.google.com - it's a search engine that just lets you type in what you are looking for, and gives it to you. Just like in the good old days of 1994, or something. Works great, too.

A guy could make a mint going around making websites that just did what DejaNews and Amazon started out to do - let people read news and buy books.

What does this have to do with khukuris? Nothing at all.
 
Glad you all liked the story. I wasn't sure this was the place to put it but I thought it would be interesting. I doubt I'm that tough or that lucky. I've heard about those pig hunters too and they have to be nuts. Boars can be really big and they are very dangerous. Didn't they used to hunt them in Europe with a spear and wearing chainmail? That sounds good to me! I like my pigs with rice and stirfried.
 
Wow that man is my personal hero.

There is a saying in China, "First boar, second bear, third tiger"

The idea is wild boars are much more dangerous than tigers. Because tigers tend to leave people alone and aren't very aggressive. Even bears don't often kill people. But boars always behave like they have nothing to lose.
 
After having killed as many boar with a knife as Larry Harley has, I'd bet on him and a Battle Bowie against a bear. Seriously.

You need to hold a Battle Bowie to understand fully. The grip shape is "pure power-stab", no finess, just brute force. It doesn't have the lovely flexible feel of a Mad Dog or even a Khukuri but for what it's made for it's the best in the world: hard terget stabs under difficult conditions, even when slick with blood.

Classic case of the blade telling you about the maker.

He's been witnessed just grabbing a large wild hog, upending it, sitting on it for a bit while it squeals and he discusses the dyamics of pig-wrassling...then he lets it go.

With no weapons, mind you. He's about as scared of boar as we are of gerbils.

Jim
 
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