6 MORE DAYS BEFORE THE COLD STEEL TRAILMASTER DRAWING

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Member there is only 6 more days left before
we draw for the 2 Cold Steel Trailmasters, Lets get those entree's in, Don't get left out somebody's going to win, Check back on Saturday October 30, 1999 to see who the lucky winners are.

Who feels Lucky

enter for contest at www.knifeworks.com

Thanks
Roger

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I don't mind entering your contest BUT

Why do you want so much personal info before I have even won the knife ??


Why do you have your html page setup so it will trigger my "personal" ISP email account to send the message, are you compiling a "junk email" list ?

This feels scammy to me !

I am not entering !!!

Regards,

xxxx
 
I entered.

Thanks Roger.

I feel lucky!
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Member XXXX

We are not running a So called scammy contest
and I dont see that we are aksing for to much Personal Information NAME , ADDRESS, CITY , STATE , ZIPCODE, EMAIL ADDRESS . This Information is needed to contact the winner
We have not save any Information for any "junk email " list or any other kind of list.
when we get are email's they are printed out and then deleted.There is no Gimmick or catch to this contest. But if you don't want to enter thats your call

For all the member's that have entered we wish you all good luck

Thanks
Roger
Bayou Lafourche Knife Works
 
Hello Bayou,
I get so much junk e-mail now, that anymore won't be noticed. If you can get anything for my e-mail address, feel free to sell it to any sucker you can find. If you need a few more, let me know and I'll send you the rest of my family's addresses.
Thanks for running the contest -- something you didn't have to do.

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I've been burned by so many spammers and it has taken such a great effort to stop them that I can't bring myself give out my home email address to any business- even to reputable businesses like Knifeworks. Instead I set up another email just for stuff like this, that way if it gets spammed too much, I can stop using that one and start yet another one. I'm in there!

I just tried to enter and the site utilizes the user's email program to send the info. Sorry, I'm gonna have to pass on this one. Thanks, though.

[This message has been edited by Burnout (edited 23 October 1999).]
 
You do not seem to understand, he has a macro setup that automatically triggers your DEFAULT email address to automatically send an email to him, your secondary accounts are not sent. In other words, the future spam email will be forwarded to your default account.

Another question to the moderators;

I noticed you just locked a thread because someone was advertising. In this case a retailer is offering a free knife so their advertising post stays unlocked.

In other words, if a retailer offers a chance to win a knife they are allowed to usurp the "non-advertising" rules of this "general discussion" forum and post their advertising.

This type of thread should be transfered to the "advertising" forum. This is clearly advertising to achieve more hits at their website and nothing more.

Best regards,

xxxx
 
You do not seem to understand, he has a macro setup that automatically triggers your DEFAULT email address to automatically send an email to him, your secondary accounts are not sent. In other words, the future spam email will be forwarded to your default account.

Another question to the moderators;

I noticed you just locked a thread because someone was advertising. In this case a retailer is offering a free knife so their advertising post stays unlocked.

In other words, if a retailer offers a chance to win a knife they are allowed to usurp the "non-advertising" rules of this "general discussion" forum and post their advertising.

This type of thread should be transfered to the "advertising" forum. This is clearly advertising to achieve more hits at their website and nothing more.

Best regards,

xxxx
 
I'll give Roger any Info He wants. I've Personally done a lot of business with him and have no complaints what so ever.If there is any question about the contest don't enter, but the odds are so good, It would be a real shame to miss out on this one.Next month I understand that the drawing will be for a Sebenza,I sure could use one of those.

lbwheat
 
Thank you Roger for the chance to win a knife I could us the knife and all I need is big tast of luck. That knnife feels good already. Thanks Bill
 
xxxx writes:
<BLOCKQUOTE>You do not seem to understand, he has a macro setup that automatically triggers your DEFAULT email address to automatically send an email to him, your secondary accounts are not sent. In other words, the future spam email will be forwarded to your default account.</BLOCKQUOTE>

While indeed Bayou LaFourche uses the <TT>mailto</TT> action on this form, and this will in fact implicitly sent the default email address, <STRONG>all of the information on the form -- <EM>including the email address that one explicitly places in the fifth box</EM> -- is sent.</STRONG>

(You don't have to be a computer professional -- albeit that I <em>am</em> -- in order to confirm my claim. Copy his webpage to your home computer; with an ASCII (text) editor, replace <em>his</em> email address with your own. Bring up your clone on your browser; fill out the form and hit the submit button. Now check your email.)

There are various reasons that may have motivated BLaF to use the <TT>mailto</TT> action. His host may not grant him CGI privileges. He may not know how to write a CGI program to collect information from an HTML form. Or maybe this is just plain <em>easier</em> for him than writing/obtaining and installing a CGI program.

xxxx, your accusations stem from conjecture and incompetence. Your claim is demonstrably false, probably economically injurious, and certainly legally actionable. I suggest that you <STRONG>immediately</STRONG> deliver the <EM>apology</EM> that you owe to him.

[Yes, I <EM>admit</EM> that I like calling Roger C "BLaF".]

[This message has been edited by Athanatos (edited 25 October 1999).]
 
BLaF writes:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Lets get those entree's in,</BLOCKQUOTE>

&lt;SMARTASS&gt;
<EM>Entrees?!?</EM> Okay, mine will be <EM>blackened</EM> something-or-another; I know that you Louisiana folk go for that sort of thing.
&lt;/SMARTASS&gt;
 
XXXX--Geez, can't you tell when a great guy and a great contest hit you upside the head?!

Pherhaps you missed the thread a while back where Roger GRACIOUSLY VOLUNTEERED to give away a SECOND CS Trailmaster to a non-american citizen?

He said he won't give away any of the information that is asked to enter the contest. If he wanted to, so what? I'm no fool to e-mail spam messages, if some retard wants to pay him for my e-mail address, more power to Roger!
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Yes! Drop the burrito...

 
I'm not a computer whiz and could care less whether ANY list gets sold to anyone! Roger is generous enough to offer to give a FREE knife probably to someone he has never even met! I've never personally met him, but I did business with him and this man is long on INTEGRITY as far as I am concerned. If you don't want to complete the form, then don't! It might increase my chances! I couldn't get my computer to return the form via email, so I printed it and faxed it to him! Now whether that is allowable is solely up to Roger. As far as I'm concerned I did all I could do. (Besides I thought this was a BLADE FORUM) Keep Rockin' Roger!
 
hey guys ,
just wanted to comment about Roger.
i know Roger personally and consider him a friend. i go to his store weekly and give him money (of course he likes me
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seriously, Roger would never run any kind of scam and has very high business ethics.
Roger is being generous to offer the giveaway!
give him a break xxxx ............
thanks Roger,

woody
 
To xxxx: Just go to the library (if you do not know better) and send it from there.

David
 
It can only be sent from the library (or a similar system) if the browser is set up for email, and many libraries have deliberately disabled their browsers in this respect.

But, again, the original concern does not have good foundation. The default email address gets implicitly used because BLaF used a <TT>mailto</TT> form. The form really <EM>does</EM> send the email address that the user enters in the form; contrary to incompetent conjecture, it <EM>doesn't</EM> instead substitute the default email address. BLaF could in theory extract the default email address from the header, but wouldn't really have motive to do so. There are perfectly good reasons that BLaF might choose to use a <TT>mailto</TT> form.

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