6 x 48 belt sander

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I have a 6 x 48 belt sander and when sanding the flats, on blades I keep getting ripples in the steel. I have tried to sand the belt splice but no matter what I end up hand sanding on a surface plate with sandpaper, can anyone help me.

Thanks, Rene

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A nice variable speed Bader III or similar machine should solve the problem.

For awhile I tried grinding blades on a 6 x 48 Grizzly sander. It was a noisy, vibrating piece of s*** and it was impossible to do a good grind on it. After I started using a variable speed Bader III my work improved a lot.

If you are serious about knife making, a good grinder is a worthwhile investment.
 
Roy,
When you say ripples what exactly do you mean? One "ripple" is from not keeping the blade flat and the edge of the belt grooving the steel and the other ripple can be from the belt splice which can put a wormy looking groove down the length of the blade. For the latter, better quality belts are in order. I believe that L6Steel gets his belts from a quality supplier that he is quite happy with. L6Steel, if you see this post, chime in.

If your problem is the grooves from the belt edge, then a little more practice at where you first touch your blade to the belt may be in order. I don't know if this is the "proper way" to do it but the first placement of the blade to the belt is always at the plunge in my operation. I only move the blade in one direction, never back and forth. I don't use a tool rest but I do use a guide which is only two pieces of flat stock bolted together at the plunge. This helps considerably. I take the guide off after 120 grit.

Hand finishing is part of flat grinding, sorry to be the one to tell you that. I have a "Cadillac" grinder (Hard-Core) and I still do quite a bit of hand finishing. It doesn't take "that" long. I go up to 400 grit on the grinder then start with 180 or 220 grit for hand work. I just clamp the blade in a vise and use a piece of flat wood with leather glued to it as my "sanding pad".

Bob Wills playing in the background doesn't hurt......
 
Rene
I noticed on my belt grinder after putting on a shorter platen. I had a pad on the platen that was shorter than the platen. IF I went below the edge or part way beloe the edge I got a very shallow hollow grind in my blade. The entire platen has to be flat.
Hope this helps
TJ
 
It does sound like a belt quality problem. I flat sand all my blades on my elcheapo 6 by and they come out fine. Are you using a knifemaker's magnet to hold them???
I get my belts from G.L. Pearce Abrasives. The last batch I bought were $3.50 or so apiece for a/o. Heres their number-18009380021. I get my 2 by 72's there also and they're only $1.70. All I've ever used are aluminum oxide belts but I'm gonna try the new 3m belts the guys have been talking about.
Has enyone tried glueing a piece of 1/4" plate glass on the 6by's platent?
Take care! Michael

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Renee: I suspect your belt speed is too fast. Don't know what belt you're using, but, you need a heavy X-weight backing and you should use a quality belt like a 3M.

Also, make sure your platen is CLEAN and SMOOTH.

If you're still hosed up, call me!

RJ
 
Thanks for all the help guys. I am going to try and solve this predictament.


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TJ

Listen to Wilkins, and L6. It takes a steady hand, good belts and lots of practice. Mr. Wilkins is also right on target with his hand-sanding comments. It has to be done that way. Hang in there.
 
I have a 4x36 that I covered the platen with suede and covered that with graphite. That took the chatter away completely, and with no chatter, those ripples went away, too.
Beyond that, the Grizzly 2x72 G1015 is on sale now for $275, and if you're willing to wait three months or so for it, it's great. My work has vastly improved since I upgraded to it and keep the 4x36 as backup. It works well for truing up flats on the contact wheel and the disk never runs out of uses.

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