64 Attacks of Pekiti Tersia

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Call Me Al

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I have seen some information on the 64 attacks and have tried to determine if it is a series of sets, methods etc. I am very interested in Pekiti Tersia and have been introduced to some excercises at Guro Inosanto's seminars but this area has never been covered.



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Call Me Al
 
Hello,
When looking at Pekiti tirsia's 64 attacks, first try to learn the basic pattern and flow of the movements. There are sections of the 64 attacks that break out and are taught as specific drills and applications, these range from the abcedario(12 sets), four walls, dakup punyo etc, etc. From this material there is the contradas, seguidas, Tirsia methodology, malayu sibat, dagaso tirsia and more. Grand Tuhon Gaje focuses more now on the advanced material, than working the 64 attacks. I hope you enjoy your training in PKT.
Sincerely
Steve L.
 
Dear Donna,
Here are some answers to your questions:
First I would like to answer why Grand Tuhon Gaje does not actively teach the 64 attacks , here is a quote from a recent letter, “What has been circulating like the 64 attacks, the doce methodos, the seguidas, the contradas and recontras are just the tip of the iceberg of what is really the Pekiti-Tirsia yet those techniques used by Tom Bisio the first American champion in 1979 in the first tournament in the Philippines sponsored by the national Arnis association of the Philippines headed by then the chief of staff of the armed forces of the Philippines, General Fabian Ver and the techniques used by Eric Knaus of the Dogbrothers and the others who fought in several tournaments using the pkt techniques had proven effective and victorious in most encounter. Those techniques although they are a part of the system yet cannot be considered as the top echelon or top of the line.”
The 64 attacks system still remains an effective part of PKT, but now the remaining parts of PKT are also being shown. The advanced fighting system includes the following:

Tri-Vertical Formula (Like a triangle it contains three parts)
a. The Contra Tirsia Dubla Doz
b. The Tirsia Methodology
c The Tirsia Puntadas

I hope this helps, I look forward to finally meeting you in person at the Sayoc seminar!
Sincerely
Steve
 
Hello Donna,
Great questions! I agree on too many moves spoil the soup... You only fall back to the level of integration of your skills, never how many moves or drills you know. What Grand Tuhon has done is to strip away the excess moves, and modified the processes to create a more effective combat system. All Pekiti Tirsia is based on the blade, not the stick. Tuhon says, "Edged impact weapons", blade first stick second. As for combat effectiveness and efficiency, PKT is great. It has a been proven in actual combat, not many arts can really boast that they are proven this way. The Force Recon Marine battlion has adopted and continuously trains in PKT, as well as the Executive Bodyguards for high ranking officials, and businessmen. As for "knife only" that is Dagaso tirsia, very few people have been taught dagaso tirsia, only the adaptation of the 64 attacks to the blade. I do know that(again) Mr. Sotis has been taught, I only have a little information regarding that aspect. I hope this helps a little.
Sincerely
Steve
 
Donna, when I hear you talking abt how complicated some art is, I sympathize immediately.

I felt the same thing in the unarmed arts, where there are literally hundreds of techniques, all of which nobody really knows if they will help in an actual encounter.

Then if you waste time and effort learning it, it's even more upsetting

But if you go to a typical "karate" or "judo" tournament, you will see the people there at best only using a few techniques, eg
reverse punch, backfist, frontleg roundhouse kick, sidekick for karate, osoto-gari, ashiwaza etc for judo. It is how these buggers apply the techniques that lets them win.

One book that expresses all this really well is called "Secrets of Championship Karate" by a girl called Karyn Turner(Contemporary Books, Chicago). She was a student of somebody called Dacascos and did well in tournament karate fighting. Her book attempts to explain the basic principles of how to overcome an opponent in a tournament situation.

I think what is in the book can be applied to any MA situation, whether with weapons or not. There is a lot of stuff abt speed, timing, distancing, evasion and angling. Also on simplicity of technique.

It is the best book I have ever read abt point-fighting in karate competitions. I know what she says is true because it is also my personal experience. I wish I had read it as a young boy, instead of 8 years ago when I was no longer interested in MA.

Best wishes from SYK
 
Sometimes its not about the technique but about the movement. Dont get lost by the complexity, express yourself through the movement.
 
Nope,
Traditional Arnis de Mano,Kun Tao, and Kombaton.
However I carry the utmost respect for Prof. V.
Saw some great footage of him throwing Moses Powell around like a rag doll, back in the 1970's i think.
 
Originally posted by SYK:

One book that expresses all this really well is called "Secrets of Championship Karate" by a girl called Karyn Turner(Contemporary Books, Chicago). She was a student of somebody called Dacascos and did well in tournament karate fighting. Her book attempts to explain the basic principles of how to overcome an opponent in a tournament situation.
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SYK:

Al Dacascos is one of the pioneer martial artists of the US and Germany in this century. He was trained in kajukenbo (an eclectic Hawaiian combination of karate, judo/jujutsu, kenpo, and boxing. He created his own branch thereof, Won Hop Kuen Do.

He was a tournament competitor and champion in the '60s. His wife Malia Dacascos was also a competitor and champion (forms mostly, IIRC). They moved to West Germany, opened schools, closed schools, returned to the U.S., divorced. Don't hold me on the order of events.

Al was a contemporary of Bruce Lee. Supposedly some of the Chinese marital community tried to start a fued between them, but it didn't happen. They never trained with each other but respected each other's ingenuity and originality.

Al's son Mark is a movie and television actor who has starred in the martial arts oriented series The Crow; ironically, the movie starred Bruce Lee's late son.

I have also read Karyn Turner's book, and wish I had the presence of mind to be able to put more of her lessons into practice oin the dojang floor rather than just react.

student
 
Student--Thanks for your reply to my posting.

I don't know anything abt using knives but I think what is in the book can be applied in this area too.

The book struck me because of its ring of honesty and the clarity of its expression. It's obviously written by someone who has managed to push herself all the way up to the top, but who may not have lost her self-perspective and appreciation of others
in the process of doing so.

In life, just like in MA, we have to overcome obstacles(sometimes our own traits are the obstacles) and books like this give a bit of encouragement and perhaps wisdom.

Best wishes from SYK
 
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