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65km hike on Thanksgiving weekend

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Well boys, I've shown you some pictures of the Mantario trail from some of my hikes, but I've havent hiked the whole trail yet. This weekend that's finally going to change.

This time of year can be a real joy to be on the trail, it can also get quite miserable and downright dangerous. It can go from a nice sunny day, to a rain storm to -5C at night. ***I JUST checked the 7day forecast, it calls for rain/snow on friday, rain saturday, sunny sunday***

I wouldn't mind getting some feedback on my gear, particularly clothing & shelter.

Going to be sleeping under a tarp as usual, but given the cold nights and lack of protection from the wind I'm planning on bringing a goretex bivy bag, which will also serve as a waterproof bag for my gear in the pack. My sleeping gear will be....

goretex bivy
canadian army down bag (shifted all most of the down too the top side of the bag for extra loft where it counts the most)
big agnes insulated aircore
wool blend thermal underwear (top/bottom)
thick wool socks
balaclava

As an alternative to the bivy I've considered bringing the outer bag from my Wiggy's setup, it'd give a lot more insulation but the shell on the wiggys is very breathable and a strong wind might blow right through. It's also considerably bulkier & heavier. I'm thinking the bivy + an emergency heatsheet if necessary should be a good combination, the bivy will stop convective heat loss, and any condensation that forms on the mylar blanket wont get back in through the goretex.


For clothing I plan on having....

2x merino wool hiking socks

nylon pants (the kind with the mesh lining that zip off into shorts, doubt i'll be needing the latter feature though!)

athletic undies/tshirt (from walmart, nylon/spandex, supposed to be wicking and antimicrobial, bottom line is they dry fast)

wool shirt (button up)

fleece shirt (button up)

windbreaker/rain shell


For the pants, cotton is obviously OUT, I can pick between the synthetics and wool pants. I'm leaning towards the synthetics because they'll dry quickly, and I can always put on my long underwear if it's too cold even when I'm hiking (doubt it). Some of the beaver dam crossings are pretty rough, and some spots youre guaranteed going to get wet at least half way to your knees, so I'm thinking the wool will be heavy and take a long time to dry. Plus I'd need rain pants as well.

The wool & fleece shirts I can wear to sleep if I'm cold at night, and I can fit the wool shirt over the fleece when I'm sitting around the fire.

Poncho is OUT, I always get soaked in a poncho. Got a light nylon rain jacket. Not planning on bringing rain pants.



Rest of the gear is pretty standard really, leaning towards the axe instead of saw this time though.


Let me know if theres some obvious flaws with my selection
 
Never forget

meteorologist is latin for "ONE THAT LIES"

Plan for the worst

Looking forward to hearing about your trip

Stay Safe
 
The BAIAC may not be enough ground insulation for those temps- it's close, IMO.

Why not bring a closed-cell pad as well to augment the pad? Can also be used as a camp seat. I have a RidgeRest for winter, but something even lighter would help.

I think you're familiar with Gossamer Gear? I might try their Thinlight pad for just such scenarios. Their clearance "seconds" with cosmetic blemishes are $6.00:

http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gossamergear/thinlight.html

Their copy:

"The ThinLight™ pad is not designed for padding, but for insulation. It provides much better insulation for the bottom of your body than the equivalent weight of down when you are lying on it.

What this means to you is the foam is amazingly light and strong for its density. The pads are tough, flexible and resilient, and exhibit good UV stability. As a closed-cell foam, they will not absorb water."

Good luck and good health.
 
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Oh, I forgot to mention, I'll also be bringing a therm-a-rest Z-lite closed cell pad. Just haven't bought it yet (need it for the backing in the SixMoonDesigns "starlite" pack I ordered), so it slipped my mind.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention, I'll also be bringing a therm-a-rest Z-lite closed cell pad. Just haven't bought it yet (need it for the backing in the SixMoonDesigns "starlite" pack I ordered), so it slipped my mind.

That's a lightweight and comfortable setup. I like your choices in gear :thumbup:

Let us know how the pack works. I'm looking for a lightweight upgrade.

Brian
 
I dont know if you already have it or not.. But i always carry atlist one large garbage bag. If i know the weather would be bad i would carry 3 of them. Like a bandana they have lots of uses. You can also use them inside the bag to keep it dry if you sweat alot. or got wet before... Can you post pics of the pack when you get it and how it looks when you wear it please. Im looking at this pack and a couple of others.. Would like to know your take on it. thanks

Sasha
 
A couple big trash bag is also part of my standard kit. So far I've only ever used them to store my sleeping bag in the pack to keep it dry. Between the tarp, ground sheet, proper rain gear, gortex bivy and clothes specifically for sleeping in, I'm not sure I'd get much use out of the trashbag. Never the less, one is coming along.

Just got the pack yesterday. Initial impression is all good, but I cant make any conclusions until after the hike. I'll post some pics, but I wont have time for a thorough review, but there are plenty of those already. I decided to go with this particular lightweight pack for a number of reasons: weight, durability, availability, capacity, ability to carry heavier loads. A lot of the other ones are either too light (much thinner fabric), a lot heavier, out of stock, didn't have the suspension (or optional stays) to carry 25-30lb (according to reviews).
 
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