7v or 7f?

Pr3inar

Pr3inar

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I'm considering getting a new member to the family, and I'm thinking about a new fullsized 7. My mini 7 feels great (smooth, lockup etc all good) but it's partially serrated, and for my use, on such a short blade, I feel that it's taking away some of the usefulness. Love the handle tho.

I'm looking at a fullsized now since I allready have a mini..

Random thoughts:

- I do like the V-grind a bit better than chisel, but both my mini 7 and Hprseman are sharp enough to easily shave and slice newspaper, so it's not a big deal. The horseman does seems to bite a bit easier into material when initiating a cut
- If I'm buying a new 7 I need it to be "just enough different" from the mini 7 SE to justify it for myself..
- the flipper seems like a extra security just in case it folds on me
- I have no experience with s35vn. I like my para 2 with s30v, but don't know how comparable they are (different hardness, heat treat and so on). I also like the 154cm.
- I found a black coated regular commander to a good price, but the 7 looks like it will carry better..

(And some considerations thats just vanity:
- With black coating scratches and user marks looks good, with the satin finish it annoys me..
- ..but the 7V looks better with SF. I guess the black coating will grow on me anyway)

I have also considered a new spydie before a new 7, but I haven't seem any that seemed beter than my para.. And I need the wave-opening since I will be using it at work.

Does anyone here own both? There aren't many posts about the flipper, and I want to hear what kind of expereiences you have with it:)









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I have both, well actually I sold the 7V. The full chisel primary grind is much sharper and is what a 7 was designed for IMHO. I absolutely LOVE my Flipper 7BT, so much so I treated it to some new shoes in a tribal skull G10 faux-bolster layered with black micarta canvas slabs.







 
That almost looks to nice to use! How does the lock handle flipping? Is flipping harder onthe lock than waving? And do you notice any differences in the steel?


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I'm pretty familiar with S35v, and don't find it all that different than 154cm. I think manufacturers could risk a bit higher HT with it as it is pretty chip resistant in my usage. I have not put my Flipper7 thru much use, so can't really comment on Emerson's HT recipe. It is super easy to flip, one of the very best I've seen. Can be flipped so lightly that it arrives at lockup very gently, so no, flipping is no where near as "abusive" (too strong a word, but you get my drift) as waving.
 
Sounds good!

Based on my two, one chisel and one v, I find it hard to agree to the chisel being sharper.. but rhe angle on my mini 7 was a bit steep out of the box, maybe 36-40 degrees according to the dmt aligner. Don't know if it being part serrated have anything to do with the grind angle. And the v seems to hold an edge longer.

At the (US) site I usually buy from, its 3-4 delivery on the flipper. But if I understand you correctly, it's worth the wait?


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Thanks.^
I like the chisel grind but for a real slicer go zero chisel. No secondary.
 
Officer's Match said:
Chisel edge (secondary grind) but V-primary grind, which is why they aren't as sharp. Think about it - half a V is sharper than a full V.
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Not in my case, but again, that depends on the angle. Some minutes with the dmt's, and it's all good:)


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Lycosa said:
Thanks.^
I like the chisel grind but for a real slicer go zero chisel. No secondary.
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Unless I win the lottery I can't imagine myself buying a custom. And even if I did, I would never dare to take it to work.

A collegue had an old Benchmade with a disc opener that he found in Afganistan. It was 7 or 8 years old. This summer he was the first to arrive to a car accident, and used his knife to cut seatbelts or cloths or someting. When the helicopter took of with the injured, the knife went with them, never to be seen again.. if that had happened with a custom knife that I had paid 1500 $ for, I would have drove off a cliff myself right after... so productions/standard edges for me!


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You^ can get a zero regrind on a stock Emerson. Contact Josh, here on BF.
 
I'd go with the CQCA. Much more of a utility edge. Some of the models are more of a specialty design. ( Karambit, PSark, Commander). I carry the Mini CQC8 ( Horseman), A-100 or the CQCA -7A on regular basis indoors an outdoors. Tantos, strong recurves and blunt tip Wharncliffe I find to be used more for specialty uses. The last CQC-7A I purchased was supposed to be a waved model but the wave feature was more of a "nub". It would not work at waving the knife open. It appears to have been cut too small. Also the lettering was cut off mid way on the blade so only half of the writing was left able. I kept the knife despite the bad finish.
 
Horseman, Para 2 and Esee's take care of the utilitarian needs. The 7's are more for fun, and the 7A doesn't do it for me in that regard.

It's either a new fullsized 7, or a fullsized, part serrated black Commander (found one for 40-50$ cheaper than a flipper 7, and that didn't exactly make the choice easier).

Since I allready have a 7 and a horseman, a commander is the last of the "classic emersons" (for me) :)

Flipper is still beautiful, but it suddenly became very expensive.. [emoji848]


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Well, I went with a regular commander. Black, part serrated, and feels mich bigger than it actually is! The flipper have to wait!


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