882 vs 884 Trainer Differences?

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What, if anything, is the difference between the 882 STR trainer and the 884 version? They appear to be the same? Searching the archives here also turns up 882 trainers with ATS-34 blades (talk about overkill) - how uncommon were those, compared to the normal 420C version? Thanks for any info!
 
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My understanding is that the first few were the ats 34 steel. Joe Houser said HOLY HANNA. Why use that steel so then they made them out of 440.
I have both types in my Tactical collection
 
I am not well-versed in the STR knives - how do the 882 and 884 differ? I can certainly agree that using ATS-34 for a trainer blade is a waste!

[Edit to add: I found an answer; see below...]
 
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If you stick that trainer blade in a Ti liner/G10 frame and sharpen it up it make a darn fine knife don't you think?
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OK, here's something I googled up today. Looks like the 884 is the model number for the trainer, 882 was the model number for the knife.

BU884BL Unsharpened Trainer Version of the Tarani Police Folder Blue Handle The 884 is a training version of the SBT 882 Police Utility Knife - a rugged, dependable, folding police utility knife designed specifically for law enforcement professionals.

The 884 SBT is a sturdy, liner lock, folding Police Utility Knife Trainer version of the 882 SBT. The blade is made from 420HC stainless steel and has a rounded tip and dull edge for training. The Tactical Composite (TACCOM•) handle is made of glass reinforced nylon that has been textured to ensure a positive grip, regardless of exposure to the elements—oils, grease, blood, water and inclement weather conditions such as rain, snow and extreme cold. Although this unique texture allows a positive tactile grip, unlike other handle materials, it is far less abrasive to clothing. The handle is blue for easy identification as a trainer.

DEVELOPMENT HISTORY

The Model 882 SBT Police Utility Knife, on which the 884 trainer is based, culminates from interviews with nationwide police agencies covering the selection, carrying, safe handling, proper usage and maintenance of a police utility knife. Required for law enforcement training, trainers must meet the same weight and materials specifications as the model on which it is based. The 882 was designed specifically for law enforcement, and the 884 was designed specifically for law enforcement training. The 884 trainer has all the features of the 882 with modification for training—the 420HC blade edge is dull and the tip is rounded, and the handle is colored blue to signify its intended use as a trainer. Working closely with Steve Tarani and Strider Knives®, our mission was to design a knife that was capable of handling the demands of police work, then create a training version.
 
If you stick that trainer blade in a Ti liner/G10 frame and sharpen it up it make a darn fine knife don't you think?


Interesting. I found another picture of an ATS-34 training blade (this one not sharpened) that shows similar markings. The kicker is that not only is it ATS-34 (which is nice) but it's got Bos's mark, showing (I assume) that the blade blank was hardened in his shop. Whoa, now that's overkill? No wonder Joe put a halt to that.

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The ATS blades were ones that were not good enough to meet the QA criteria on the 882. Instead of throwing them out, we modified them for use on the 884.

Jeff
 
Interesting - I noticed that the blade in this trainer is a bit off-center. Might that be why?
 
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