9260/S5/L3

tallwingedgoat

tallwingedgoat

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Has anyone experience with these steels?

Also, what is the Japanese making their auto coil springs out of? (0.45% C, 1.5% Ni) It's supposed to be the king of all-out tough.

I'm getting disenchanted with the search for the ultimate edgeholder. Now I'm on a quest for the ultimate toughness (that's still cutlery material)
 
it doesn't have enough carbon to harden well, the minimal amount of carbon in steels i'd use is .84%. it's probably not very good as a knife steel, but your welcome to try it.
 
Well 1050 has been used for swords. It can get up to 57-58. So I imagine 0.45% can't be too bad.

It's not knife material. But swords are a different story.
 
Well, if you want to search way back I had a short lived thread about S5. I recieved a fair amount of lfak from Walt but I still think it would make a nice knife. My only problem is finding some of it. It was called "S5, a winner steel?" if I do recall correctly.

Sincerely,
Adam

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Adam,

I found your old post. Ofcourse S5 does not have the edgeholding ability of some of the highspeed steels today. But it would surely make a stronger boradsword than say, M2. And I'm willing to bet, easier to sharpen as well.

Air hardening steels, including the CPM stuff have their place. But I'm primarily looking for sword steels in this thread. Toughness is the first concern. Edgeholding isn't that much of a problem. (if you're killing so many opponents that your sword is dulling faster than you can resharpen -- it's time to change lifestyles)

I don't know much about S5, but edgeholding wise it should be competitive with 5160, 6150, 1050, 1060, and 9260. Not great edgeholders, but acceptable for certain applications.
 
tallW
3V will work for swords.
I have only made short ones so far but all reports indicate it will work for longer ones.
the problem with S5, S7 ect is they don’t have the compressive strength in knife-sword
thickness to work, the edge deforms to easily.

In say 1/4” thickness 3V would be hard to beat for swords.
Howard Clarke’s
L6 bannite can but thats about it.
his site is on the links page.

Ed


[This message has been edited by Edward R Schott (edited 06 September 1999).]
 
What is wrong with 5160 if properly heat treated? Readily available, hold an edge extremly well and very very tough. I've made
10 to 12 inch blades with distal taper heat treated properly go through tourture tests
still shave hair cut into axils go 90 degrees
then 90 degrees the other way nobreaky nochippy. These were not thin blades forged
and finished to 1/4" plus at guard.....At the
shorter length the compression is greater than it would be at longer lengths ie. 24 to 30" I've tested 3v and it is good, easier
with stock removal, a little pricy, but if I had my choice 5160.....

goshawk

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