A BK2 Sheath Mod

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So I'm sitting there looking at my sheath trying to figure out how to make it useful for my purposes. As it was, with the floppy belt loop and over-torqued retention, it really was useless to me.

As I'm looking at it, I notice that the edges, where the screws and slots are, look very familiar to me. It looks a lot like one of my holsters for my S&W 4563TSW. I got the holster when the company Raven Concealment Specialists first launched back, oh, I don't know, 6 or 7 years ago maybe. I had just bought a Crossbreed Super-Tuck for another weapon (CZ 2075 RAMI), and so on a lark, I wrote to Raven and asked if they might be able to make a tuckable Kydex holster for my Smith. The owner wrote back and said he'd love to try, but didn't have any designs in the works, and basically asked me to walk him through how the Crossbreed clips worked etc. He ended up sending me three different inside the waistband (IWB), tuckable mounting ideas for the holster he made before we settled on the fourth idea. Here's a pic of the Crossbreed and Raven together for those who can't picture what I'm talking about:

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You'll notice that the clips have Velcro on the surface that faces out away from the body. That Velcro hooks up with the loops part of the hook 'n loop system that's sewn into the inside of my Belt Man Gun Belt.

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It's the deepest concealment holster combination I've found. I'm wearing the .45 in the Raven in this pic:

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One of the clips is just peekin' out from under the belt, but if you're careful when you're putting it on, it hides to about 95% invisible behind that 1 1/2" belt. The Velcro holds the holster very securely. Doesn't move a fraction of an inch upon drawing or reholstering. And the belt acts as added retention on the weapon the tighter you make it. It's a great system.

Anyway, like I said, I had some spare parts hanging around and here's what I did with 'em:

I removed the backing plate and the belt loop and installed one of the extra ears I had for the Raven:

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Rinse and repeat for the other side, and add clips. Now, I also had a spare pair of "J-Clips," which I just turn around and can wear the sheath on the outside in literally any position I want. I can turn the clips 90° and carry horizontal, or like it's pictured to carry vertical. When I want to wear concealed and tucked (if I ever want to - probably won't though), I just put the Velcro clips back on, shove the thing inside my waistband and go on. So here's the finished product with the J-Clips installed:

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I tried to take some pics of the rig on me while standing in front of the bathroom mirror, but all the toothpaste and hair grease and other smeared substances that one finds on the mirrors of guys who are just too old to give a crap anymore came out more clearly than the knife and sheath did, so I'll have to wait until GW can give me a hand taking some pics to show you that.

It is a tad bit bulky the way it is. I can cut it down, streamline and refine the mounts a bit, but it rides pretty nice just the way it is right now. I wore it around the house all day while I was tinkerin' with other stuff, split between inside and outside carry, and in both cases I forgot it was there some of the time.

There ya go. Thought you might like to see it.

Blues
 
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First of all, I'd like to say that I like the craftsmanship and the exact work you've done here. But I'm thinking, is this something that you would really carry or are we talking about a "because I can" thing here? And do you really need to conceal your BK2 like this?

take care

maethor
 
First of all, I'd like to say that I like the craftsmanship and the exact work you've done here. But I'm thinking, is this something that you would really carry or are we talking about a "because I can" thing here? And do you really need to conceal your BK2 like this?

take care

maethor

With the way it's set up now, with the J-Clips, it rides on the outside of my belt, so it's only concealed if I have a cover garment. Like I said, I will probably never wear it IWB, and even if I did, I wouldn't take advantage of being able to tuck my shirt over the top of it like the picture where I'm wearing my .45 in deep concealment. I just went to the trouble of explaining the intended purpose of the parts I used, but no, I have no need to conceal my knives.

That said, the J-Clips gives the rig way more stability than the original belt loop did, so in that regard, yeah, I do "need" it modified as such. As it was, I literally could not draw the knife with one hand. I did the blow dryer thing mentioned in the other thread, and it worked real well......temporarily. Seemed the plastic had a kind of "memory" about how tight it was made to hold the knife. By the next morning after blow drying it, it was back to two-handed draw. Now the platform is solid as a rock. There's no "flop" to it at all. I also drilled out the top rivet. That was the ticket. Now it's got plenty of retention, and with the fully stable mount, can be drawn with one hand with just a firm tug.

Now, all that said, this rig is totally temporary. I'm either going to order one of Goose's modular leather sheaths and pouch, or if I get impatient, I'm going to order one from someone else before too long. I had planned to do that before I ever got this knife, even before I saw Goose's thread on his sheaths. Whether or not I modified the stock sheath, I knew ahead of time that I wouldn't be using it for long. So in that regard, yeah, it was kind of a "because I can" thing, but still better for making that sheath useful for me until I get the new one.

BTW maethor, I'm not sure if you were joking around or if there was a language barrier going on, but the other day when I said "I work graveyards...." that means I work a night shift. Midnight to 8:00 am to be exact. That's why a lot of my posts show up like now, at 4:30 am. If you were just jokin' around though, "tombstones with keyboards...." LOL

Blues
 
No, I've already made this mistake once. I remember being totally confused why the guy called his working time "graveyard", but he told me that this is what night shifts are called in English. I was just joking around. But thanks for your concern, it's always good to have some friendly people helping you learn something. I really want to improve my English, but I don't get around to talking in English for extended periods. That's why all my Youtube videos are in English, it gives me some practice.

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maethor
 
No, I've already made this mistake once. I remember being totally confused why the guy called his working time "graveyard", but he told me that this is what night shifts are called in English. I was just joking around. But thanks for your concern, it's always good to have some friendly people helping you learn something. I really want to improve my English, but I don't get around to talking in English for extended periods. That's why all my Youtube videos are in English, it gives me some practice.

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maethor

Hell, if you hadn't just said that English was a second language, I would've never known. I thought you might be an American GI stationed in Germany (no offense intended :D ). I was stationed in Baumholder for my first year there, and then Heidelberg for a little over a year after that. 'Course, that was about a hundred years ago....maybe more. LOL Anyway, you do English better than a lot of Americans I know. Don't sell yourself short.

Blues
 
Well, whether or not I would ever use the stock sheath modified or not, has just become a moot point. I found what I think is *THE* sheath. I'm not sure if the maker is a dealer here or not, so I won't post his name until I confirm that he is, but I did find my way to his site from this site. Y'all may recognize this design and know the maker, but he's around the forums at least sometimes in any case.

I just shipped my new BK2 to him so he can fit it to this design:

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As you can see, it is totally modular. Allen wrench and fire steel loop and pouch are removable. Mounting system accommodates vertical or horizontal carry, as well as being reversible for carrying weak-hand dominant. It's a hybrid design, with a Kydex liner and (obviously) leather on the outside. Mine will be black like the example here, but with some mahogany (a deep, dark, rich maroon) highlights added in.

So who cares about the sheath in the OP? Not me! LOL

Blues
 
bluestinger are you having martin make your sheath?

If so he does excellent work....
 
bluestinger are you having martin make your sheath?

If so he does excellent work....

Nope, but Michael Volclae, the gentleman who is making my sheath, attributes all his inspiration to Martin Swinkels, who I assume is the "Martin" to whom you refer?

Mr. Swinkels makes a friendly appearance in that thread (2nd link). Mr. Volclae gives him mad props. Both men are producing stunning work. I'm just glad I found one of 'em with a relatively quick turn-around (about 3 weeks for Volclae). I can't wait! :D

Blues
 
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nice stuff. IWB looks interesting as a concept...
 
nice stuff. IWB looks interesting as a concept...

Thanks Bladite.

The IWB concept actually works pretty good too. The clips are just a little bit lower than the widest part of the opening of the sheath, so tightening my belt around it doesn't allow for the top of my pants to fold over. In other words, drawing the knife does not present any risk of slicing your britches, or even fraying the edges. Of course, you have to be a little more careful reholstering. Really though, you just have to make sure you're into the opening of the sheath before pushing it all the way down.

But again, the way it's set up in the last two pics, using the J-Clips, it is not an IWB configuration. But it is still much more stable, and way more versatile, then the stock belt loop, what with being able to place the clips anywhere along either edge of the sheath, and at any angle, meaning it can be carried vertical or horizontal, tip up or tip down, strong hand or cross draw and reversible for left handers or right handers. All of that was just dumb luck though. I'm no design genius, that's for damn sure! Just worked out that way.

Blues
 
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