A Block for the Desrosiers (handle material collection thread)

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Hello all,

I'm sure many of you have heard of the tragic event that befell the Desrosiers. This thread is not intended to be about me so I will just make a short statement and leave it at that. I haven't been around for a few months. I've been dealing with back problems for a few years, in fact they were what forced me out of my career (twice) and brought me into this community. I badly reinjured myself in March and have been struggling since. I made my first Dr. appt April 4 of 2015 and continue on that path, but I have not yet received any treatment. I have not completed or sold a knife in three months. I have become reasonably stable in my current condition though, and I am doing my best to bring the ride to a stop and achieve a new normal. I've taken my leave from the majority of social media and the internet while I tend to my health issues.

That said my first child is due in three months, a baby girl named Emelyn, and I desperately want to be a wholly positive influence in her life. I have become somewhat jaded through my health struggles and shrunken away from the community. If you wonder what I am getting out of doing this, you have your answer. I want to reconnect with the community and reverse this wasting process on my psyche, and do a good deed for a couple makers in need at the same time.

My friend Ben Tendick has taken initiative to help in this situation, and although I don't know the Desrosiers personally, I have a great amount of compassion for them especially with my struggles this last year. He offered to post this for me due to my hermititude (I guess I just made that up?), but I told him that I felt a need to do it, and he could post in my thread and we could just see where it goes.



Just to get it out of the way, I think many will agree that losing irreplaceable friends and companions is deeply tragic. The one other thing I can't get off my mind though, is the loss of the many heirloom materials and special pieces that a maker will collect over the course of their pursuits. Many will treasure these pieces so much that they often can't bring themselves to turn them into a knife. I think we all have a dozen or so blocks like this, some more, some less.

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Restocking any material takes time and money, but these are the pieces that money can't buy, only time and persistence, and sometimes some aggressive begging or bartering mixed in. I know that if I were to have the same fate, the loss of that one special drawer where I lock away the heirloom pieces, the ones that keep me going with just a quick glance, would sting the worst.



So, the point. I am considering the possibility of some type of handle material collection, but I especially wanted to stress my hope that myself and others could give up one of those "special dozen" to help things sting a bit less for these two. I know the only thing that could help soothe the loss would be new special pieces to admire and dream about using some day.

I am unsure whether it is best to just leave this up to individual makers, or start an actual collection to try and encourage more to pry their tightly wrapped fingers off those heirloom blocks. Trust me I know how hard it is to part with those, even harder than getting them in the first place haha. I happen to be sitting on quite the hoard of Master grade Koa, due to an order I placed almost two years ago that just happened to finally land in my lap just before the holidays. I'd be happy to send some on my own, or to give a strong start to the pool if it is decided to go that way. I will donate what effort I'm able to help, although I think I will let Ben and others chime in first. If someone would like to take the torch from me I will gladly give it, but if anything is required of me I will not drop the ball if I can in any way help it.


EDIT: One other thing I forgot. I have some already stabilized stock I could donate, but I have some crazy good stock I just got, that is yet to be stabilized. I think if we did end up doing a collection and more than a few folks had unstabilized pieces they'd like to donate, I could talk to Shannon at K&G and see what she can do. They seem to be pretty good folks. Even if they aren't able to help in that manner, I'd be happy to float the cost of stabilizing a special batch, and I'm sure if I told them what it was for, they'd push it through pretty quick for us.
 
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Awesome Idea Ian. Thanks so much for putting this up. I say don't limit it to wood (not that you did), because I know a few folks have some pretty fantastic ivory and stag in their hoard...:thumbup:
 
Awesome Idea Ian. Thanks so much for putting this up. I say don't limit it to wood (not that you did), because I know a few folks have some pretty fantastic ivory and stag in their hoard...:thumbup:

I don't have a dog in that fight (not even a puppy really) but anyone who does would be greatly appreciated. I can definitely bring the heat in the wood department though :D
 
Do the DesRosiers use stuff like micarta or is it all high end materials? What about tools?
 
Do the DesRosiers use stuff like micarta or is it all high end materials? What about tools?

They absolutely do. Shoot me a PM if you have any questions regarding that.
 
Do the DesRosiers use stuff like micarta or is it all high end materials? What about tools?

I am not personally familiar with them but I have admired their work more than once, and they seem like a lot of us... we love the fancy stuff but will use anything that tickles our fancy at the moment.

One thing I know is that every single time I've shown another maker my hoard, they all seem to have their interest piqued by pieces I never would have guessed or chosen myself.

I hope I didn't make the purpose of the thread sound too snooty, I think anything and everything is welcome here. I just know how hard it is for me to part with my most favorite blocks, and also that many of those private reserve type pieces are the hardest to replace or even find in the first place.
 
I'll be getting a box of stuff together to send soon.

It would be cool if one of the belt grinder companies would send them a couple grinders... :cool:
 
HallHandmade,
First, let me say that though we don't know each other personally, I damn sure wish we did, and I sincerely hope we get the chance in the near future. It is humbling to see that even with the battles you are now yourself fighting, you have set them aside to do this kindness for us.

Haley and I are both very independent, and self sufficient people, and this has been a very deflating time for us. I admit, that watching our shop, our fur companions, and lives work go up in flames, I felt like giving up. It seemed that there would never be a way to get back the loss, and there isn't, but because of this community, we now have hope for a new start. Like most of you, we would never ask others for help on anything we thought we could do ourselves. How many times i have selfishly wished this was happening to someone else and it was us offering the hand... It is only by making that switch in my mind and thinking that if it were a friend or contemporary of ours we would be behind this movement 100%.

So... If I can't talk you out of your generosity, I simply offer my deepest gratitude and my promise to pay it forward whenever the opportunity arrises in the future.

We are not fancy people. Like all of you, we like to make pretty things and want our work for others to be the best it can be, but in my opinion a well suited piece of micarta or simple wood used in the right place is just as pleasing as the finest ivory.

Thank you for doing this for us. While I dearly wish it wasn't for us, I have to say that I am proud and thrilled once again of this Blade families incredible quality.

Adam.
 
Ian, I'm in. I was thinking about donating a Bowie I am half way finished, but being part time, and relatively new, I don't have the name recognition to sell at a price the piece is probably worth. I was thinking of putting together some handle blocks too, and will do so this week. Love the idea. My wife and I experienced some setbacks this past year too. We understand how community and family supported us while my wife has been off work, and with no income for a year as an a-hole Doctor claimed she as faking her illness, in spite of three others advocating for her claim. I left my career of 22 years over an abusive boss, and my private practise does not yet make enough to cover both our incomes. We too have no insurance on our home not because we choose not to have it, but because our builder screwed up the build so badly that no one will insure us. Life throws us crap sometimes I spite of our best efforts. We have a support system that has helped us, and I want to help too. (I do pro bono work for clients who can't afford my services too. It's the right thing to do.)

Knife makers are good people. I am amazed at the generosity of this community over and over.
 
Ian, fire me an email with your contact information. We can have a chat if you are in a funk if you like, and can help point you in the right direction to help get out of it. My e-mail is in my profile.

Warren
 
I'll be getting a box of stuff together to send soon.

It would be cool if one of the belt grinder companies would send them a couple grinders... :cool:

I know right? I definitely can't help in that department, my poor grinder is literally screaming for new bearings. You can only drench it in Kroil to unseize them so many times before it just becomes silly :D



HallHandmade,
First, let me say that though we don't know each other personally, I damn sure wish we did, and I sincerely hope we get the chance in the near future. It is humbling to see that even with the battles you are now yourself fighting, you have set them aside to do this kindness for us.

Haley and I are both very independent, and self sufficient people, and this has been a very deflating time for us. I admit, that watching our shop, our fur companions, and lives work go up in flames, I felt like giving up. It seemed that there would never be a way to get back the loss, and there isn't, but because of this community, we now have hope for a new start. Like most of you, we would never ask others for help on anything we thought we could do ourselves. How many times i have selfishly wished this was happening to someone else and it was us offering the hand... It is only by making that switch in my mind and thinking that if it were a friend or contemporary of ours we would be behind this movement 100%.

So... If I can't talk you out of your generosity, I simply offer my deepest gratitude and my promise to pay it forward whenever the opportunity arrises in the future.

We are not fancy people. Like all of you, we like to make pretty things and want our work for others to be the best it can be, but in my opinion a well suited piece of micarta or simple wood used in the right place is just as pleasing as the finest ivory.

Thank you for doing this for us. While I dearly wish it wasn't for us, I have to say that I am proud and thrilled once again of this Blade families incredible quality.

Adam.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I think we all use our work as a form of therapy to some degree, and I know I personally can't wait to see you two back behind the bench, I'm sure everyone else feels the same. I know it's a long road, but maybe the bumps will start to smooth out from here. Maybe you'll even happen by a meadow of wildflowers on the journey. I know I can always spare a moment to appreciate nature's beauty, even in my darkest hour. Maybe that's where my obsession with handle materials comes from. It's like having a little box of that magic tucked away for when I need it most.



Ian, fire me an email with your contact information. We can have a chat if you are in a funk if you like, and can help point you in the right direction to help get out of it. My e-mail is in my profile.

Warren

Sounds great. I miss a bunch of folks here, I am probably gonna renew soon. I just didn't want to become an active maker on the forum again until I can guarantee the service people deserve.
 
I've already got a handle material 'care package' in the making.
I know how much I appreciate my own collection to dig through and choose.
Let's not let Adam and Haley be without too long.
 
I've already got a handle material 'care package' in the making.
I know how much I appreciate my own collection to dig through and choose.
Let's not let Adam and Haley be without too long.

Terrific. I figured more than plenty of folks would take their own initiative. To be honest, the thread was partly for me to work up enough courage to give up a few of my own most cherished pieces, just because I thought it was the right thing to do. I just about have a panic attack when I think of losing my personal collection. :D

I know there's gotta be more than just me that is so attached to their materials, so I thought even if none of us end up collaborating in any other way, the thread might let us goad each other into coughing up the goods. :)
 
Hi Everybody,

I wanted to let you know that I just posted some mammoth ivory in the FOR SALE thread to benefit the DesRosiers. 20% of this sale will go to them. If you would like to buy them a piece of mammoth ivory, I will charge you only 50% of the cost and mail it to them at no charge. Here is the link if you would like to check it out.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...it-for-Adam-and-Haley?p=15598788#post15598788

Thank a lot,
Mark & Angel Knapp
 
I'll be getting a box of stuff together to send soon.

It would be cool if one of the belt grinder companies would send them a couple grinders... :cool:


Interesting idea Don



Thank you for doing this for us. While I dearly wish it wasn't for us, I have to say that I am proud and thrilled once again of this Blade families incredible quality.

Adam.

Adam and Haley

What machines and accessories were you using / do you prefer ?
 
I just got back to my dorm at college, but once i unpack I know I have a bunch of Old Growth cocobolo and kingwood from before '54 in one of my boxes. Where should I send it?

Once I get all set up I'll be mirroring Mark's offer with wood.

And hall, shoot me an email. I live in LA when I'm not in school. Might swap woods if you are interested
 
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Hall email me your contact info. I have a dontation to the care package.
 
Okay since it looks like I have a good half dozen folks on board, I'll go ahead and post my info. It's already on the Web so not really sure it matters.

My personal email is ouspco at gmail

Cell is seven six zero, six two eight, 4043. Call or text any time. I don't have normal hours since my fiance is a night nurse, and it is literally a 50/50 to call at the right time whether day or night.

Just touch base and let me know if you have already processed blocks you'd like to get up to them, or if you have unprocessed that you'd like me to process and stabilize and send up to them.

I figure maybe a post here if something is sent out or received will keep things from getting confused. I am dealing with my health trouble, but I have been supplying and stabilizing my own handle materials for some time so I have multiple batches active at all times.
 
Since I'm in Canada, I'll just send directly to Adam and Hayley. I'll get the info from Ben when I'm ready to ship.

Warren
 
Hi All,

So I just wanted to give a quick update to where my head is at on this, if anyone sees trouble with my plans then I'm very open to suggestion.

Obviously plenty of folks are doing just fine sending their own care packages, but I have several on board for the group collection.

I definitely see the attraction of sending your own package, as I'm sure many would like to include personal notes along with the materials. If that is a concern, know that I do plan on marking and separating the donations if requested, and I'd also be happy to include a personal note to go along.

The response to this event has been overwhelming, and I think that Adam and Haley likely already have a truly mountainous pile of materials coming their way. In light of that, I think it may make sense to really focus this on the rare, unique, hard to find stuff, or just plain unusual. Things that you don't normally come across, as I mentioned in my OP, that can only be stocked by years of diligence or good connections, or just plain luck.

Since it will take some time to rebuild the shop and they likely already have plenty of materials to start with, I think quality/rarity will supersede speed or quantity in this particular effort.

I'm going to call this tentative, but I'm thinking I will deadline Feb 30 for the stabilize batch. That will keep us far enough into winter that K&G hopefully won't be too backlogged by then, and will make sure that if the stars align and these two are hopefully making blades in some fashion by summer, they will have these premium materials available.

So basically, I will keep working on the collection on my own accord, and will try to bump this and/or spread the word. Please try to have any donations that require stabilizing in the mail by Feb 15th, so I can make sure the batch is ready to process by the start of March.

Obviously this is about Adam and Haley's needs, so if the schedule needs changed according to them, I will gladly do so. This is just my "throw it at the wall and see if it sticks"
 
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