A bunch of newbie questions...

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I have a couple of 10-15 year old Victorinox pocket knives in very good shape. What's the best way to sharpen them? I've never actually sharpened a knife before? What kind of implement should I use?

Where does the stainless steel used by Victorinox fall on the quality scale?

When looking for a new pocket knife (I've already started reading some of the FAQs on the site), are there some brands to make a point of staying away from, or gravitating to, based simply on the quality of the stainless steel being used?

Assuming that there is a pretty strong trade-off between a blade's ability to keep and edge, and ease of sharpening, which is preferable in a pocket knife?

What are the best stainless steels to look for in a pocket knife?

What's the word on the quality of stainless steel used by SOG and Gerber for example?

What brands give the most bang for the buck?

Thanks very much in advance and happy new year?

Christopher Meisenzahl
c_meisenzahl@yahoo.com
 
Christopher,
Allow me to welcome you to the forum and say that you do a good job titling your posts . . . that IS a bunch of newbie questions!;)

Most of those questions are things that you see wrestled over here every day. I won't try to answer the definitive ones but will try to help.

V'nox is a great knife for the money and for it's purpose. The choices of sharpeners are endless but one that receives much acclaim and is my personal favorite is the Spyderco 204 sharpmaker. It will sharpen just about anything and has helpful instructions!

Your questions about steel and brand choices can get pretty opinionated here but it seems that it is best to take it on a knife-by-knife basis. If there are a few that you are interested in then the search function is a tremendous help!!

The most helpful thing is to choose a knife or steel you like the looks of, do a search on it, and if you still have questions . . . start a Review Request thread in the Knife Review and Testing section.

No concrete answers . . . but I hope it helps!

:D :) :D :D
 
Hello Chris. I'm not sure what kind of steel Victorinox uses, but they're fairly easy to sharpen. Such massed produced knives would have to be made of a relatively "easy to work with steel."

The Spyderco Sharpmaker is one of the best sharpeners out there, but you can practice on a small honing stone. Learning to sharpen freehand takes time, so be patient and practice.

As far as brands to stay away from, I can only suggest you stay away from anything that says: "PAKISTAN" :barf: Stay away from the flea market junk and design ripoffs too.

Regarding what steel is preferable in a pocket knife, it depends on what you want out of that pocket knife. Some people stay away from "hard" steels and prefer a knife that holds a decent edge while being easy to sharpen. Others prefer a knife that will hold an amazing edge, but these are harder to sharpen. It depends on your own preferance and experience.

For your question on SOG and Gerber, both companies make good quality knives for the money. SOG is one of my favourite brands.

As far as best bang for the buck? To be honest, there are too many to name. It also depends on what you can afford and what features you look for in a knife. In most cases, the old saying "you get what you pay for" rings true on knives, but learn to be a smart buyer and look for good deals. One of my mottos is Never Pay Full Retail. :D

Check out knife reviews here on BF or in magazines before you buy, that way you can avoid being dissapointed in buying a knife that's just not for you..

Hope it helps..:)
 
Hi fellow TZ-er... I'm a newbie here myself but am already spending bigtime! :D

I use a Laguiole-stone and a "free-hand" approach for sharpening my knives; I've noticed good results can be had by laying various "descending" grinds of sandpaper on a hard surface and gently work your way to a razor-edge. I'm doing fine, but for example my new Benchmade 690 Elishewitz has a factory-edge I'll probably never be able to re-apply myself... Just amazing. BTW I have an "EDC" - Every Day Carry - Victorinox myself that I just rejuvenated -cleaned, olied, sharpened- and it's like new.

Congrats on your new hobby! The great thing is, you get a lot more steel for your money than with watches! ;)
 
Okay. Let me start this response by saying that it's only my half-educated opinion, but I figure good, definite, specific answers might help you out.

Originally posted by c_meisenzahl
I have a couple of 10-15 year old Victorinox pocket knives in very good shape. What's the best way to sharpen them? I've never actually sharpened a knife before? What kind of implement should I use?

If you're going to be heavily into knives -- and if you keep hanging out here, you'll probably end up that way -- then go out and buy a Spyderco Sharpmaker. You don't NEED it for a Victorinox, since I've found that steel incredibly easy to sharpen on ANYTHING, but the Sharpmaker is the best knife money I've spend -- if you buy any dedicated, cutting edge steeled blades, you'll want it. If not, just buy a small, medium grit stone, and learn to sharpen freehand. It's not hard. If you need specifics, I'm sure someone else here can help you much better than I can.

Where does the stainless steel used by Victorinox fall on the quality scale?

I'm much simpler than most of the steelheads out there, it seems: I have three qualities I look at in a steel. I want one that is easy to sharpen, that holds a good edge, and that doesn't rust. Rostfrei, Victorinox's steel, at least in my experience, is darn near the top in the first and third categories, and darn near the bottom in the middle. With that said, it's perfectly servicable; I usually have two or three SAKs on me.

When looking for a new pocket knife (I've already started reading some of the FAQs on the site), are there some brands to make a point of staying away from, or gravitating to, based simply on the quality of the stainless steel being used?

Only if you're picky (and I am). If you're not, just stay away from any trash, $2 knives -- if you are, stay away from CRKT. Otherwise look at the individual steel in the individual knife. As for gravitating towards: if you're big on steel quality, and it seems you are, look at Spyderco. They're usually pretty darn cutting edge.

Assuming that there is a pretty strong trade-off between a blade's ability to keep and edge, and ease of sharpening, which is preferable in a pocket knife?

You tell me, friend. This is a personal choice. As for me, I carry a couple that are easy to sharpen, and one or two that keeps a good edge. Mine are usually all or nothing; I very rarely carry anything that is pretty good at holding an edge and pretty good at sharpenability.

So it comes down to -- how often do you want to sharpen your blade? Keep in mind, even the lowest edge-holding steels, like Victorinox, will get you through a hard day or even a hard week without needing to be sharpened.

What are the best stainless steels to look for in a pocket knife?

Personal choice. I'll take VG-10 over everything else. I also usually want at least one Rostfrei or AUS-8, in case I need to cut something wet or corrosive, and because I'm better at putting a shaving edge on it, more easily, so I use it more. Now that I think about it, this is an incredibly involved question, and it really does depend on your personality, habits, etc.

Of course, my EDC uses ATS-34. And another one uses AUS-8. And the rest are VNox, currently. Depends on what you're going to use the knife for, too.

What's the word on the quality of stainless steel used by SOG and Gerber for example?

Can't help you there. I'd need steel types. Don't know what Sog and Gerber use offhand. I think I remember not being particularly impressed with Sog -- but you have to remember, even the "worst" edge-holding steel you're going to find is far more than adequate.

What brands give the most bang for the buck?

Almost all of them give a darn good amount. As for the "most," I'd say the FRN-handled Spydercos. Get ahold of a Calypso Jr Ltwt if you can, and if you don't mind the handle material -- it's probably the most bang for the buck knife I've ever had.

Thanks very much in advance and happy new year?

Christopher Meisenzahl
c_meisenzahl@yahoo.com

My pleasure. Hope it helped.
 
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