A close look at stainless steel and corrosion

Thanks for the reference, Griffon. Just another little bit of knowledge I picked up here courtesy of the many good members.:)
 
I think I have to go with Will here. I think that they (the testers) are more involved with lower chrome, lower quality steels that what we knife aficianados have become accustomed to.

They are talking about adding heat treat as though it is not part of their test findings. Good quality knives are always heat treated higher quality, higher chrome steels.

FWIW, We tested 440C in Q fog both with proper heat treat and with no heat treat. The 440C with the proper heat treat was among the highest in corrosion resistance. The 440C with no heat treat was at the bottom of the spectrum.

sal
 
Originally posted by Sal Glesser
We tested 440C in Q fog both with proper heat treat and with no heat treat. The 440C with the proper heat treat was among the highest in corrosion resistance. The 440C with no heat treat was at the bottom of the spectrum.

Sal-

That's really interesting. What's "Q fog"?

Thanks,
Will
 
"Q-Fog" is a government approved salt water spray test for corrosion. Measurment is based on percentage of affected surface and it is taken at various increments; 6 hours, 24 hours, 48 hours, etc.

sal
 
Higher chrome perhaps, higher quality - maybe not. Knife steel quality isn't necessarily measured in terms of corrosion resistance. Many chrome-bearing steels improve their corrosion resistance with heat treating. Not a knife steel, but such stainless steels as 416 and some others get better when heat treated. The tempering range influences the corrosion resistance of many stainless steels, including ATS-34/154CM. That's also true of S30V according to Crucible.

What intrigues me about the article is that the sulfide contamination could explain some of the strange corrosion patterns you see on many high alloy steels. In my experience, it is never a uniform reddish tint across the entire piece of steel, but a blotchy pattern of localized rust amid rust free zones. With CPM-3V, the rust occurs in very distinct spots, which by the time they become visible are usually sitting atop deep holes. Though only 7.5% chrome, CPM-3V is remarkably rust resistant except for these discrete spots. The article may explain that as being localized sulfide contamination. Maybe not, but worth a read anyway.
 
Thanks, Sal & Jerry--

Getting perspective from the two of you at once is like seeing with binocular vision--quite an eye-opener!

Best regards,
Will
 
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