A Cruel Reminder and LifeSharp Questions

stu

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I did a very foolish thing today. A vendor at work today asked me to borrow a knife. I lent him my beloved Cabela's D2 556 without a second thought - there are quite a few "knife people" at work and we all like to bring new and different knives to show off. I had therefore let my guard down long enough to hand the knife off to this vendor, who I don't know well enough to trust. He took it out of my sight, handed it back to me a few minutes later and I didn't pay it any mind until a few minutes ago.

This knife has ridden in my pocket for the better part of six years. It was a Christmas gift from my father. The finish is all but gone, but I'm proud of the fact, in a way. It's a feeling I'd really only expect people on these forums to understand. I've always kept the knife sharp and well maintained, and in my opinion it's worn beautifully over the years. It's a constant, reliable companion in an otherwise chaotic world.

I pulled the knife out of my pocket a few minutes ago for some trivial task or another, and immediately I noticed something was off. The tip of the blade has been completely destroyed. I've had a knife in my hand since before I could walk, and for the life of me I can't even begin to imagine what would do this to a knife. The edge at the tip has been completely flattened. I just can't understand what he could have done to it. It was hard enough to reset the bevel when I gave it to one of those "free sharpening" turkeys at the knife show and he ran it through a little belt grinder at 25 degrees a side, I can't imagine trying to fix something like this when all I have is a Sharpmaker.

I took some pictures of the damage, judge for yourself. Here is the blade in profile:

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I also tried to take some pictures of the actual edge:

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I am no professional, but I tried to take these carefully and I think they adequately show the damage. As you can see, the edge at the tip is completely flat, lacking any kind of bevel.


I'm completely at a loss. I feel incredibly stupid - it was, after all, my decision to lend my knife to a person I couldn't trust. I am to blame, but I can't believe that someone would subject a knife to something like this and not tell the person who owns it. I am going to bring it to work tomorrow to show to my fellow knife enthusiasts as a warning, and I will ask the vendor what he did. I won't be confrontational, but I do plan to find out what happened and inform him what the knife cost. With any luck, he may at least learn the importance of using the right tool for the right job.

I don't have the means to bring this blade back to life, but I wonder if this is something that the Benchmade LifeSharp service can handle? I only worry that the blade is at the point where it requires something that would be considered beyond a standard sharpening. I'm sure it doesn't qualify as a warranty issue, because clearly the knife wasn't at fault and it was used for something it should not have been.

I have no idea what to do, and I would greatly appreciate any help you guys can provide me. Treat your knives well, and don't lend them to anybody you can't trust.
 
WOW Stu, That was incredibly inconsiderate of the vendor at the very least. This is why I "never" loan out my knife to just anybody. :(
I remember years back while on a job someone borrowed a coworkers Kershaw. I don't know the model but it was an expensive knife.
Well, we all watched this guy place the blade on a 1/4 inch steel cable, and before the owner could yell DON'T DO THAT, this person hit the top of the blade with a large crescent wrench thinking he would cut the cable. The blade broke off right before our eyes. :eek: The guy handed the two pieces back and all he said was sorry. :rolleyes:
I learned right then and there to not loan anybody my knife unless I knew them well enough to know they wouldn't do anything that stupid.
-Bruce
 
I suspect LifeSharp will make you happy.

I bot a (supposed) NIB tanto one time, the tanto portion looked like that. There were some striations on the blade (the long way) that led me to believe someone had been piercing metal w/ it.
 
:D Wow. You're pretty upset about this huh? It's not a big deal to sharpen a knife, really, I promise.
Yes Benchmade can take care of it just fine. Or you could sharpen it out. If all you have is a sharp maker you're going to need something better eventually, so why not now? When I say better I mean something that will remove material faster.

I had a similar experience with a literally brand new ESEE Izula that I lent to a firewatch once. He tried to saw a hose off of a fitting and took the entire edge off the knife. With my coarse DMT stone it only took 10 minutes or so to bring the edge back. My edge was better than factory anyway so I wasn't too broke up.
 
Lesson learned I guess.

The response to "Do you have a knife?" is "What do you need to cut?"

It looks like he used it to pierce (or attempted to pierce) something hard. Not what knives are designed for.

Not 100% sure but you might be able to get a brand new blade for $35 if you'd like. I'm sure lifesharp can touch that one up but it's another option if you're sending it in anyway.
 
This is the reason why I don't let people use my knives.

"You got a knife?" Yeah, what do you need cut? Let me do it is always my answer.
 
Considering the finish is a wash on your well used/ loved knife an option besides sending it in would be 150 grit then 400 grit sandpaper on a dowel or square piece of wood. This would be used to get the edge near what it should be. The sharp maker could take it from there. Under 3.00 dollars and no wait.
TC
 
Never loan anyone, even a friend, your pickup truck either. I tell them they're borrowing me too to drive the truck.

I hope you don't give that vendor any more business!
 
Never loan anyone, even a friend, your pickup truck either. I tell them they're borrowing me too to drive the truck. Of course then you get roped into moving furniture.

I hope you don't give that vendor any more business!
 
Thank you guys for all of the helpful responses. I'm definitely going to look into using sandpaper or maybe getting an extremely coarse stone. I'm leaning towards LifeSharp only because all of my prior sharpening experience has been maintenance, rather than repair. I've heard of people wrapping sharpmaker stones in sandpaper, do you think that will work? I don't really trust myself to maintain a decent angle if I try it freehand.
 
I would highly recommend the diamond deluxe Lansky. While I haven't tried sharpening my Grip with the Lansky, I have been extremely pleased with the Lansky. If you add the yellow and blue hones as well as the leather strop, your knife will be very, very sharp. This is assuming that you have a decent grasp of knife sharpening and reprofiling. The tip is the hardest part of the blade to sharpen with out deforming it, though.

Bottom line: Do what you will be happy with.
 
Even with my Edge Pro I still send projects like this up to Benchmade. Good news is it looks like the edge can be restored without the expense of replacing the blade, but man I've never seen an edge flattened like that...at least the tip wasn't broken off, but it will likely be a bit shorter with the work that needs to be done on it. And oh yeah, my policy for years has to never lend any of my tools. Period. Good luck, let us know how it turns out!
 
Lifesharp will do a fine job restoring it for you. They may have to reshape the very tip a bit to get it back to being "pointy" and sharp. I sent a beat up D2 Para to Spyderco with an edge that was pretty roughly handled and they got it back to factory sharp with minimal metal removal. If this would be your first go at rebeveling and you'd be using unfamiliar gear, I'd suggest letting BM do it for you, particularly in view of your attachment to the knife.

But, like Chris and some others have said, being able to handle something like this yourself is always a good idea. This might be a good time to invest in something more robust than a Sharpmaker so you can develop the skills / techniques to take care of this sort of thing in future.
 
Agreed, but not with a Sharpmaker, which would take forever. Diamonds can be a sharpener's best friend...Lansky, Duo-Fold, special Edge Pro stones can all work, but that blade's going to require a machine driven belt to repair the damage IMO.
 
I don't have the means to bring this blade back to life, but I wonder if this is something that the Benchmade LifeSharp service can handle? I only worry that the blade is at the point where it requires something that would be considered beyond a standard sharpening. I'm sure it doesn't qualify as a warranty issue, because clearly the knife wasn't at fault and it was used for something it should not have been.

I have no idea what to do, and I would greatly appreciate any help you guys can provide me. Treat your knives well, and don't lend them to anybody you can't trust.

Have no fear....LIFESHARP is here!!
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Ok that was dumb but I had to do it. We can take of that issue no problem. Check out our Lifesharp page here:
http://www.benchmade.com/services/lifesharp_service.aspx
Our guys in product services will take care of your knife and put a wicked edge back on it and it will cutting like new. If you have any questions let me know. Thanks,
 
I guess since everyone else (including the COMPANY! :) ) already chimed in it's not necessary for me to reply, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Benchmade service is hands down the best in the biz. No really. I would most definitely send it in. I've used their service (and am actually using it right now too) and I highly recommend them.
 
Have no fear....LIFESHARP is here!!
......
Ok that was dumb but I had to do it. We can take of that issue no problem. Check out our Lifesharp page here:
http://www.benchmade.com/services/lifesharp_service.aspx
Our guys in product services will take care of your knife and put a wicked edge back on it and it will cutting like new. If you have any questions let me know. Thanks,

You guys are the best, I can't thank you enough. I'll put the knife in the mail shortly, and your "dumb" line totally gave me the warm fuzzies. You guys totally have my loyalty for the rest of my life.
 
You guys totally have my loyalty for the rest of my life.

I'm right there with you.

BKC's presence here is really important Imo. Even if you don't spend time in the Spyderco forum here stick around long enough and you'll hear time and again how much their fan base appreciates their grassroots contact. Sal and company deserve the praise, they've earned it. With this new subforum, having Ryan as a liason and their projects like all of the cool testing videos that they've been doing, they are taking a big step in the right direction. Of course this is all just my opinion. I do happen to know for a fact though that we, the enthusiasts, are very much valued. I wish I could say more but I made a promise (to Benchmade) to keep my trap shut. Regardless, they've definitely earned my buisness for life. ;)
 
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