A different take on some edc folders

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Hey everyone, just thought I'd give a short review on some edc folders I've acquired recently. Now, I'm sure these knives have been discussed before, but I thought I'd give some background on why I purchased these knives and explain the way I will comment on these blades.

As you can see by my location I live in one of the most crime infested cities in the U.S. My job takes me into the heart of the city every day and many nights, therefore I have a handgun carry permit, and always leave the house armed. I also consider my edc knife to be a backup manner of SD, since guns do run out of bullets. NO, I don't "think" I may ever use my knife for SD purposes, but as the saying goes, I'd rather be prepared. I also just can't imagine myself not carrying a knife.

I also know there are many "reviews" on knives that are simply people gushing over their new purchase, reiterating things one can find on the manufacturers' website. While entertaining, they are usually not helpful.
My takes will mostly be on negative things I have found while carrying these folders. I don't do this to hate or pick on a mfr, I do it because I believe it might be helpful to prospective buyers. I wont list what I paid for the knives, or details of the knives since these things are found easily online. I'm listing them in the order purchased. I also will not comment on the steel used, since all have servicable steel for edc. By the way, all these knives were purchased new.

Spyderco Tenacious: First impression was very high quality knife considering the price. When I decided to relocate clip for tip-up carry, 2 of the torx screws did not take the T6 bit, while one did. They had been rounded out during assembly. I had to use a hex wrench to remove them. When I attempted to fasten the clip in the new location, one screw never tightened, forcing me to use loctite. Seems like a QC issue to me.

Kershaw Skyline: Very light, with a nice, addictive flipper opening. The linerlock on this knife is very thin. While it has never failed to lock the blade, I have a hard time trusting it for hard use.

SOG Visionary II: Fit/finish and looks of the blade were very impressive out of the box. I like the locking mechanism, as it provided very smooth opening of the knife. The frame however, worries me. Considering it has FRN and full steel liners, I'm disappointed in how much the handle flexes. All other knives in this review flex less and feel stronger than this frame. While the pocket clip buries the knife deep in the pocket, it's only attached with one screw. After edc'ing, the clip started to pivot, after tightening, it still pivoted. For a higher priced folder, I expected more.

Spyderco Pacific Salt: This blade impressed me with it's light weight and the tightness of lockup. The downside is even after oiling, the opening is still stubborn, and is difficult to open fast, even with a wrist flick. I've noticed the blade has also received an arc scratch from contact with the FRN during opening.

Cold Steel 4" Tanto Voyager: Liked the blade shape and stoutness of the FRN handle right away. Once opened and locked, my blade did not line up with the steel in the lockback. Not bad I guess, but bothersome to me since my other lockbacks do. After becoming comfortable opening the blade with a slight wristflick, I noticed there was the slightest vertical play in the lockup. Unfortunate considering there's no adjustable pivot screw. Strange thing is the play is not there all the time.:confused:

Byrd Cara Cara FRN: Upon removing the knife from packaging, it was obvious to me, this was a cheaper knife than the others listed, based on looks alone. That being said, I have found lockup to be tight, and the frame is plenty strong. The closing detent could be stronger, but this also allows easier opening.

Again I don't list these observations to be negative, I'm just trying to give information acquired during use. I guess what I have learned more than anything in accumulating some folders is, I understand completely why some people choose to spend hundreds of dollars to find a folding knife without any of these shortcomings. I personally may never spend $500 on a folding knife, but considering I've spent nearly that much on these and a few others not listed, I'll never say never. Sorry about the long thread, just thought I'd say what was on my mind. Thanks :thumbup:
 
I have been thinking about getting a CARA CARA. I want a rescue model and a plain model, but I am hesitant.

What exactly was "cheap" about it? The steel, the grind, the overal mechanics?
 
Simply the finish of the FRN didn't look as nice as most handles made of the same material. The blade also, while sharp, had some small imperfections.
For the price, hard to beat though.
 
Thank you for providing your thoughts on these knives. I am curious as to how long you carried them and if they saw regular use when they were carried.
 
Each knife has been carried at least 3-4 weeks for edc use, and at my job used for cutting tape, cloth and restraining devices made of plastic. I understand I could give more information if carried longer, but these observations would still be true months or years from now.;)
 
Each knife has been carried at least 3-4 weeks for edc use, and at my job used for cutting tape, cloth and restraining devices made of plastic. I understand I could give more information if carried longer, but these observations would still be true months or years from now.;)

Thanks for the response. I just asked because I've found that many knives have problems that go away with some use, as well as some problems that crop up after seeing use. 3-4 weeks seems like a very reasonable period of time to check for both types. :thumbup:
 
Cold Steel 4" Tanto Voyager . . . I noticed there was the slightest vertical play in the lockup . . . the play is not there all the time.

One possible fix, if you really like this type (lockback) of knife and want to make the effort, is to clamp the knife in a vice, with the blade open, and gently tap the back of the spring where it 'nests' (locks) into the blade notch, with a brass punch. I've done this on several lockbacks with the same kind of play, and it seems to 'set' the locking position of the parts. It worked to some extent on each of the knives I tried it on.

Great reviews, by the way.

thx - cpr
 
Thanks for the positive feedback. I may try that if the play comes around more often. It makes sense how that could work. One thing nice about having more than one knife, You're not scared to try a fix since you got other options.:thumbup:
 
While I find your comments interesting and informativ, other than for reasons of price I don't really understand why you would have chosen any of these (except the SOG) as an EDC with backup cred. My own choices would have been (not in order of preference)

Spyderco - military, para-m, police, endura
CRK - sebbie, um
Emerson - CQC 7 or 8
Al Mar SERE 2000
Buck - Mayo framelock
Benchmade - 710, rift
CS - recon1, hatamoto, sable
CRKT - M16 LE or Ti

I am not familiar with Lone Wolf, ZT, Blackhawk and Strider but many of their models would also be suitable.
 
Thanks Antonio, I do have a few BM's, 710,940,950 and Spyderco's Millie and PM. I just haven't found anything about these blades that I don't like.;) My goal was to give a heads up on limitations I have found in the blades listed.
 
Thanks Antonio, I do have a few BM's, 710,940,950 and Spyderco's Millie and PM. I just haven't found anything about these blades that I don't like.;) My goal was to give a heads up on limitations I have found in the blades listed.

Ah - now it makes perfect sense - thanks for the heads up :thumbup:
 
I'm about to pick up a Byrd Cara Cara (in G10 instead of FRN).

Can you explain a bit about the issues with the blade on yours?
 
I'm about to pick up a Byrd Cara Cara (in G10 instead of FRN).

Can you explain a bit about the issues with the blade on yours?


The blade is straight and came with a good edge. The only problems are the finish is not the quality of a higher priced knife. On the spine there is what looks like a tiny dent on the edge, and you can see some very small pitting on what is the flat surface above the hollow grind. Its purely cosmetic, and would not be there in a higher priced knife manufactured with more strict QC. If you're not into showing off your knives to others, then it's a moot point as long as it doesn't bother you. The knife has performed solid for me, and the steel touches up easily.
 
I'm about to pick up a Byrd Cara Cara (in G10 instead of FRN).

Can you explain a bit about the issues with the blade on yours?

I only have one Byrd, a Flight with steel handle. I would agree with Finedges that this has the finish of the less expensive knife that it is. The edges of both the handle and back of the blade are not rounded as much as those of more expensive knives. The corners of the handle are also "sharp". There is nothing mechanically wrong with it and I still feel that it's a heck of a deal for the less than $20 that I paid for it. But it does have the finish of a less expensive knife and not the finish of a knife that costs two or three times as much. (No big surprise.)
 
The blade is straight and came with a good edge. The only problems are the finish is not the quality of a higher priced knife. On the spine there is what looks like a tiny dent on the edge, and you can see some very small pitting on what is the flat surface above the hollow grind. Its purely cosmetic, and would not be there in a higher priced knife manufactured with more strict QC. If you're not into showing off your knives to others, then it's a moot point as long as it doesn't bother you. The knife has performed solid for me, and the steel touches up easily.


It's a $20 knife bro :D I think for 20 bones the Cara Cara is pretty hard to beat for a tank of a knife that you dont have to worry about abusing.

I would like to see a test of the lockup on this knife.

Thanks for the thoughts and reviews :)
 
Finedges-

I took apart my tenacious. Being made in China, I took a WAG that the screws are metric. My 2mm hex worked for the pivot. I measured the threads and they are M3 x 0.5 pitch.

Ric
 
It's a $20 knife bro :D I think for 20 bones the Cara Cara is pretty hard to beat for a tank of a knife that you dont have to worry about abusing.

Could'nt say it any better than that:thumbup:

I would like to see a test of the lockup on this knife.

Me too. I don't necessarily subscribe to the spine whack mentality, but the lockup on this knife impresses me, especially considering the price.
Thanks for the thoughts and reviews :)

Thanks:D
 
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