A Distinguished Gentleman by S/Walden 1946 with some Distinguished Friends.

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G'day, Its not often the "Distinguished Gentleman from 1946" comes along and for the original advert from 1946 to be available at the same time is amazing.
This is in minty condition including the original box and original yellow pajamas which is why its still minty after 60 odd years. As the advert says its solid 14K Gold and quite weighty. This is#2653 stamped on gold case so possibly a number made. Schrade blurb at that time "Orders are not solicited directly,but on request the name of a nearby Schrade-Walden dealer will be mailed you.
The blades open and shut like driving a Rolls Royce and at US$125 in 1946 you would have expected plenty of bang for your buck immediately post war.
I have taken quite a few photos so you can see Tang markings if you ever see one sitting in a pawn shop...grab it!
I've put it with some of its rarish Schrade Cut Co and S/Walden friends. Its not quite as weighty as its bigger brother the Cut Co Calendar from the late 1930's which is real heavy for its relative size. Hoo Roo.
 

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....and tang stamps etc.
 

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and the workings and friends....
 

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....with scarce friends.....
 

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Larry, as always it seems, you raise the bar. That is one beautiful knife. I do always check pawnshops for hidden treasures though 99.9% of the time it's more like used-junk that I find lol and when it comes to Schrade I think there are far fewer kicking around in Canada than in USA. I try to keep my collection specialized on the Bear Paw Family but I'd snag one of those if I could. I have read those old ads and WOW that sure was a lot of coin in 1946. Thanks again for taking the time to take all those great pics.
 
.....Postscript to the Distinguished Gentleman Knife...I emailed the photos to Schrades' own most distinguished gentleman Mr. Herman Williams who has kindly advised me that he believes that my "Fortune" knife as he calls it was in his collection at one stage and further advises that a framed "Fortune Poster" <Fortune Magazine Advert Dec1946> used to hang in Uncle Henry's Office located at 1776 Broadway,NY City....and Herman acquired it in the late1980's...........<Most of Hermans' prized Schrade/Imperial collection was the basis of the Schrade 'Wall Collection'...and the rest is history>
I had asked him if these knives ever had an ID Model number allocated by Schrade and to his knowledge they never did. I will now refer to this knife as the' Schrade Fortune Knife'.
I am greatful to this Distinguished Gentleman willingly providing small insights to fill in the gaps...He advised me previously that my Mexico Imperial 'Salesmans' Collection from the 1950's survived intact due to an oversight that had it remain in a box in a strongroom rather than meet its fate on "The Wall" where it was intended to be placed.....
His Schrade knowledge is irreplaceable living history and I thank him for sharing.......Hoo Roo.
 
Congrats UL you have made my year and i don't think you will get many replys because thats FORT KNOX you have there in South Australia and you certainly are a GOLD member . I'm going to clean my 1250T UL now and put some eye drops in from those gold welding flashes i just had .Have a great weekend UL ,Big dust storms up here mate ,had to put my lightforce spotties into action yesterday 'Midday" and Black death my bullbar nearly filled the freezer for me on the way to Dalby, flat out seeing my nose.
 
Please check out the "What's your latest Schrade?" thread for me. I purchased a gold Schrade Cut Co. and want to know if handles are solid gold, filled or plated. I put all the info I have at this time there. Thanks Larry! I know you like "The Fortune Knife" (knives) and hope you may know what I purchased.
 
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$125 in todays money would be between $1300 and $1400 dollars. I checked a few online inflation rate calculators to make sure.
Regards Tim
 
Alright Tim, Sold....I'll accept your offer is that in US or Aussie Dollars?.... although wer'e fast meeting parity at the moment Dollar for Dollar...Hoo Roo
 
Alright Tim, Sold....I'll accept your offer is that in US or Aussie Dollars?.... although wer'e fast meeting parity at the moment Dollar for Dollar...Hoo Roo

and Canadian too...our dollar is very close to USA greenback again. Considering most of the good Schrade's I see (you are a notable exception to this rule Larry303) are in the USA it's a good thing for me right now.
 
...brought up for LKJW...a bit more info including input from Herman Williams who calls it 'The Fortune Knife"...I also have the original framed advert from Fortune Magazine which I believe was 1946...Schrade stated solid gold....at $125 in 1946 I would have wanted solid gold as well apart from the working parts....I have gold cased, gold filled, I reckon the gold Calendar and the 'Gentlemans knife are more than simply thin gold scale attached....I am also a gold prospector/metal detectorist now here in Oz..and know gold when I see it/feel it.... for info....its the Schrade' Rolls Royce' of knives well done LKJW....Hoo Roo
P.S. please refer to my later post regarding the blades on the 1946 Fortune Knife which did not have a pair of scissors.
 
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Larry, check out the perimeters of the handle, you can see the little "tabs" that are folded over the actual handles. That's basically how all those gold handled knives were made. You'll note how they state in the ad that it's in a "casing" of solid gold. A solid gold constructed knife would have sold in the thousands of dollars, even back then. I sure do like it, construction is impeccable.

Eric
 
I hear what you say Eric and there are also variables of 9Kt Versus 14Kt with 24Kt being pure gold.....I note there are varying degrees of thickness of the gold scales over the basic knife shell. I have digital gold scales.<scales as in weighing>...I should weigh all the above 'gold' knives <plus others I have> and put the results here....<at least the 14Kt stamped bales should be 14Kt!>
The heaviest will undoubtedly be the Schrade Cut Co gold calendar knife and the lightest will be the Schrade Walden ""gold"" key knife as you would know as you also have one.....
I believe back in the 30's gold was not allowed to be held by private citizens by Legislation....however gold lighters etc including gold knives could have been made to circumvent and could account for my Gold Calendar...which is extremely heavy in relation to its size and is undoubtedly 14Kt gold on its 'Waldemar skeleton' suggested by Codger in other posts, finished in gold by N.Y. Jewellers at the time.......and the Alligator 'belly flap' purse it came with would have been a costly item then as well...<our member Paul/Sheathmaker from Texas confirmed the approx age and details of the Alligator hide purse>
THe 'Fortune Gentlemans' knife is exquisite to behold.......Hoo Roo
 
Eric, I just got my Gold Fortune 'Gentleman's knife' out and it is clearly stamped 14K on bail. No stamping whatsoever about 1/20 10K GF....my Gentlemans Fortune knife from 1946 has no scissors and has 2 x blades plus the file as per the advert for this knife on Larry V's site....it states across the top of the advert 'Solid 14Karat Gold'...you are discussing two different knives I believe by suggesting the knife with the scissors is the 1946 Fortune knife.....Hoo Roo...
 
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Eric, I just got my Gold Fortune 'Gentleman's knife' out and it is clearly stamped 14K on bail. No stamping whatsoever about 1/20 10K GF....my Gentlemans Fortune knife from 1946 has no scissors and has 2 x blades plus the file as per the advert for this knife on Larry V's site....it states across the top of the advert 'Solid 14Karat Gold'...you are discussing two different knives I believe by suggesting the knife with the scissors is the 1946 Fortune knife.....Hoo Roo...

Larry, I tried to make that distinction in post #5 of that thread but didn't quite get it right, even with a corrrection yeterday! No it's not the same knife at all, as the gent's knife, along with not having scissors, has the wide nail file more akin to the model 868 of yor. I'm getting forgetful lately!:confused:

I'm going to ask Dave Swinden if he recalls anything about that knife, you never know.

Eric
 
Selling any of these in the near future? You make me like my stuff is very lame - that said keep em coming I love to see em
 
Larry, Michael, Larry, and gang,

Spoke with Dave Swinden today (I actually work side by side with him every day, how cool is that?!?!) regarding the Gent's knife, says it was an SW model, I believe the 848, gussied up with the gold covers. The covers on that knife, and pretty much all the covers for the gold shelled knives for Schrade Cut/Walden and Ulster, were made in Providence RI. Providence was pretty much the costume jewelry capital of the world at the time, with companies ranging from six hundred employee monsters to two man gold chain manufacturing partnerships. He couldn't recall the name of the company, but they made anything from solid gold covers to gold plated covers and clasps for the Schrade group. The knives were not shipped there for completion, but rather the covers were made to the particular knife's specs and shipped to Schrade. One end was usualy cupped or had tabs to attach to the scale, while the other end had the shackle grommet (often gold or gold plate as well) spun on by the knifemakers to hold it in place, which in turn held the entire assembly together.

I asked him about the calendar knife as well, but that one came and went before he was even aware of it. They did try to patent it as I have the patent application for it here, but I believe it never made it to issuance. No real detailed drawings, just a knife and a letter opener (?) with the calendar drawn on. I do believe they paid for the filing though, I'll have to dig it up to see.

Eric
 
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