A few thoughts on Cold Steel Recon 1, Lawman and mini-Lawman [AK-47 added]

powernoodle

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Here's the deal. I've been around here a while, but for whatever reason never paid a bit of attention to Cold Steel. It was probably the throwing stars, "Special Forces shovel", and other mall ninja horsecrap. And the videos of tough guys jamming folders through chain mail and cowboy boots. Its just not my kind of thing.

But for whatever reason, maybe it was Brother Ankerson's work, or nutnfancy's excellent youtube reviews, I decided to try a 2010 Recon 1.

Its pretty good stuff. Big folder. Built tough. Real tough. Light weight. Killer solid lock. And not spendy at around $60 to your mailbox if you look around. And the shape really grips your hand.

The new flavor of Recon 1 for 2010 is linerless. From what I have seen from others who have abused the knife, and my own experience, I find no downside to the linerless configuration. And as important, it saves a couple of ounces.

Minor downsides: the G10 is really grippy, which is fine and dandy for the most part. But it shreds your pocket in short order, especially with the very tight clip that comes on CS folders. So I sanded mine down with 150 grit. You can see it in the photos, but its not too noticeable unless you are looking for it. And it makes a big difference, especially if you loosen the clip just a tad. Deployment is easy, your pants are safe, and the knife is still secure enough that you won't lose it.

The black blade coating, which Cold Steel says is teflon, is not particularly durable. A little usage, and it starts to go. Thats ok with me, as I love a battle-scarred blade. But if you are looking to use a blade but keep the black intact, you might want to look elsewhere.

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Top to bottom: CS mini-Lawman, Lawman and Recon 1 clip point. Each is the 2010 flavor with tri-ad lock. Edit: the Lawman shown is the older version, though I did review the 2010 version.

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A few things about the mini. Its a small knife, about the size of a Delica. And like the Recon 1, the shape really makes for a good grip. More than good. But there are a couple of downers that make this one a no-go for me. First, the clip is positioned in such a way that about one-third of the knife sticks out of your pocket. Being a small knife, that doesn't leave much ballast below the waterline to keep the knife in your pocket. There is just no way I'm going to carry this one using the clip, because it feels to me like its going to jump out of my pocket. And that would make Powernoodle sad.

Additionally, the convergence of the small blade, positioning of the thumb stud and the arc through which the blade swings, places your thumb very close to that killer sharp edge when you open the knife. So close, that I peeled my thumb as if a cheese slicer had touched it. No blood, but a missing layer of dermis. I'm very lucky that I did not fillet my thumb.

So, for me, the combination of the clip position and the skin off the thumb thing makes this one not recommended. But dang it, it still feels really good in the hand once deployed.

The Lawman falls somewhere in between. Ergos are good, though not as good as the Recon 1. And on my version, the Lawman is more difficult to open and to unlock than is the Recon 1. I don't know if all of them are like that, but the Lawman is just a little stiff to open, and sometimes the lock is a little sticky to disengage. Compare that to the Recon 1, which opens like a dream, thwacks loudly to signal engagement of the lock, and feels great in the hand.

Punchline: the Recon 1 may find itself on the highly coveted Powernoodle Top Ten List. If such a list existed. :) It has a lot going for it, and the rough G10 under the clip is a quickly corrected matter. I much prefer it over the Lawman, based primarily on the stiffness of opening and disengaging the Lawman. As for the mini-Lawman. Eh, no thanks. Nice little knife, and it feels great in the hand. But the clip position makes it a no thanks for me.

All this has made me a Cold Steel fan, and I look forward to the Voyager in 2011.
 
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Well, PN thank you for the review, as this is exactly what I was looking for.
I have the regular Lawman,older model, so its a heavyweight.
When I received it a year or so ago, I figured hey, this is a well built knife.
Never posted anything on it, as there were to many CS skeptics, and left it at that.

I appreciate your review differences, between the Lawman and the Recon, as I also find the Law man a tad tough to open.
Been sooo tempted, to click buy know, on the Recon, and now after you review,
I guess I will :D
 
my lawman was a bit gritty on the opening and closing as well.

i took it apart, cleaned the liners, washers, and blade, then applied some grease. i think its about as smooth as any other back/mid lock i have owned.
 
Ankerson has been a bad influence on me. He made me buy an Edge Pro, and now my Recon 1 has this sweet, sweet mirror edge:

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Ankerson has been a bad influence on me. He made me buy an Edge Pro, and now my Recon 1 has this sweet, sweet mirror edge:

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Just look though, you have a great sharpening system to sharpen all those knives on and that edge loos great on the Recon 1. :thumbup:
 
pretty good review. you know, nutnfancy came up with a way to solve the over-grippy of the g-10 under the pocket clip; just he did it to an CS ak-47.
 
hey power what is the alloy c.s. is using in the recon?

Steel: Japanese Aus 8A Stainless w/ Black Teflon® Finish

you know, nutnfancy came up with a way to solve the over-grippy of the g-10 under the pocket clip

Yeah, he gets a dremel and smooths it out, then fills it in with some sort of bondo, then spray paints it black to match the G-10. Thats time, money and effort. Honestly, the 150 grit sandpaper does the same thing in 10 seconds. :thumbup:
 
IIRC you're pretty familiar with Spyderco mid-locks. How does the force required to depress the lockbar on the American Lawman compare to the force required to depress the lockbar on a Spyderco?

Looking at the dissected pic on Cold Steel's site it appears it would take significantly more force to depress.
 
Its much harder than any lock back I have ever seen/used, the length it must travel to disengage is most likely the reason. The further you press the more spring tension is built.

Compared to a spidie it probably takes 3x the force.

FYI, 1000 grit sandpaper works great on the G10 without changing its appearance. No need to nutnfancy hack it.
 
Good review Noodle...I dont own any CS products myself, even though i hear they put out some pretty good knives if you can look past the tactical ninja marketing. Im real keen on trying out their SRK San Mai!
 
How does the force required to depress the lockbar on the American Lawman compare to the force required to depress the lockbar on a Spyderco?

I'd say it takes 5x much force, and 2x - 3x the travel, to disengage the Lawman vs. a Spydie. Its do-able, but not the kind of thing you want to do 800 times while watching Sportscenter.
 
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I'd say it takes 5x to 10x as much force, and 2x - 3x the travel, to disengage the Lawman vs. a Spydie. Its do-able, but not the kind of thing you want to do 800 times while watching Sportscenter.


They are tough aren't they? :D

That's the 1st thing I noticed about the newer Tri-Ad's. :thumbup:
 
Ankerson has been a bad influence on me. He made me buy an Edge Pro, and now my Recon 1 has this sweet, sweet mirror edge:

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That Recon 1 is bigger than I thought! You've been working out, I see! :D

I really like CS's AUS 8A. It is very easy to get a nice, highly polished edge.
 
Thanks for the great review. I picked up a first gen AK-47 (aluminum handle) and was not impressed. It weighs a ton, is a little too big in pocket and doesn't seem to have and adjustment for wear built into the lock (like the Axis). I can't quite make up my mind about the Lawman or the Recon1. I might do the knife-nut thing and just get both. I really like the Tri-Ad lock. Its like a compression lock but better (on paper). I'll have to see if I agree after handling one.
 
I can't quite make up my mind about the Lawman or the Recon1. I might do the knife-nut thing and just get both. I really like the Tri-Ad lock. Its like a compression lock but better (on paper). I'll have to see if I agree after handling one.

Well, do you have large hands? I have big hands. While I love my American Lawman and it felt comfortable to me when I tried it, and thusly bought it, I'm thinking of getting a Recon1. The Recon's handle appears to be slightly longer than the AL. I love the Triad Lock. No more Axis, liner or frame locks for me. :thumbup:
 
I dig the lock, but haven't seen any knives CS offers as really appealing to me, yet. Hopefully, some more models offering the Tri-Ad are on the horizon.:thumbup:
 
Well, do you have large hands? I have big hands. While I love my American Lawman and it felt comfortable to me when I tried it, and thusly bought it, I'm thinking of getting a Recon1. The Recon's handle appears to be slightly longer than the AL. I love the Triad Lock. No more Axis, liner or frame locks for me. :thumbup:


the recon handle is about 1/2" longer than the lawman.

i have medium sized hands and find both to be about equally comfortable.
 
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