A G-10 Harpy? & A Bigger Dodo model?

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OK we all have our wish lists but I've got some solid basis for wanting to see these two models come to fruition. We actually did have a G-10 Harpy all the way back to the late 90s in the grand old ATS-55 era. And there was some talk here on this very forum about two years ago about the possible return of the G-10 Harpy and I just can't for the life of me understand why it got lost in the shuffle.

And of all the models I've wanted to see a Larger Version of I can't think of any Spyderco model I would like to see in a larger version more than the Dodo model. Because I just know in my gut that a larger version of the Dodo would be a "user's dream". Look at the advantages: you would have a Hawkbill ( of sorts) and a decent EDC blade all wrapped up into one good work knife. It would be a grand folder for a fisherman, warehouseman or just about any factory job you could name.

The Dodo in it's present size is just a tad bit too small for really rough, demanding cutting jobs IMO. And with the surging popularity of Hawkbills a newer/better G-10 Harpy is far overdue ( Spyderedged & PE on both please). Who else would benefit from one or both of these proposed models? And Why?
 
I'll take one of each in PE, probably 2 just to be safe. I'd have been all over the Spyderhawk if it'd come in PE and LC200N. Sorry, I have butter knives that hold a better edge than PE H1. A large Dodo with a 3" to 3.5" blade would be a dream, but I'm hoping for a Wharny Manix 2 or PM2 also. I guess a man can dream;)
 
mastiffhound said:
I'll take one of each in PE, probably 2 just to be safe. I'd have been all over the Spyderhawk if it'd come in PE and LC200N. Sorry, I have butter knives that hold a better edge than PE H1. A large Dodo with a 3" to 3.5" blade would be a dream, but I'm hoping for a Wharny Manix 2 or PM2 also. I guess a man can dream;)
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Yeah I tend to agree with you about H-1, plain edged blades having a lot to be desired. Which really baffles me as to why H-1 does so well in Spyderedge. H-1 does make a great blade steel not only for Spyderedges but I'm sure it would be good for many types of serration patterns. But on the other hand I still don't understand much about the concepts of "work hardened" steels? It wouldn't surprise me if LC200N doesn't ultimately replace H-1 all together eventually.

Yeah for a really big Dodo model you might just have the absolute ideal length. I just know in my gut that a larger scale Dodo would be the bomb as a far as work knife goes. Everywhere I've used any of my current Dodo models I've always found them to be sheeple friendly. It amazes me that about half of the people I meet are amazed when I tell them that it is a pocketknife.

And for the jobs that most people buy and use the Harpy for you've just got to know that a better, less slick handle would be much more desirable.
 
A G-10 harpy without the shackle key would be interesting. Larger Dodo is a cool idea.
 
I could go for the harpy, but would pass on the dodo.

It is a neat knife and I enjoyed the orange one I had, but it took up a ton of pocket space for the amount of blade. I felt the same way about the poliwog. I can't imagine how much room a scaled up version would take.

I think I would rather see a sculpted G-10 scaled SE lil matriarch instead of a scaled up dodo.
 
AF said:
A G-10 harpy without the shackle key would be interesting. Larger Dodo is a cool idea.
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Shackle Key??? I don't recall my ATS-55 G-10 Harpy ever having a Shackle Key:confused:

Now I do like Lanyard holes in all my work knives because there are occasions that I work around lakes, streams ect and I have lost one Spyder overboard and it truly ruined my day. So I don't take any chances and I now use lanyards anytime I'm working around any body of water.

Also I would want a newer/better grade of G-10 this go-around>> similar to the G-10 that they used on the C-60 Ayoob Sprint Run.
 
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AF said:
Ha, that makes sense. I wasn't familiar with that model.
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Truthfully I missed those 2005 era Carbon Fiber Harpy models just about as much as I do the G-10 units. Around 2010 I had to sell quite a few Spyders to pay bills and those CF Harpy models fetched a nice price. Now I really don't have a bone to pick with the traditional stainless handled Harpy which is Spyderco's present day standard issue of the Harpy. But the Harpy and other Hawkbill folders just seem to handle and work a lot better with the more grippy handles.

Bottom Line: We need Hawkbills with nice handles and the G-10 Harpy is an excellent start.
 
lieferung said:
Sal throw us a bone pretty please? :p
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It hasn't been that long ago when there was some talk here on BF that the G-10 Sprint Run could be possible. Now I like stainless handled models and I'm currently carrying one now as a companion blade to my M390 Military. A Harpy model with a grippy handle is well overdue IMO.

Just like the recent Spyderhawk Sprint this could be another way to catapult the sales of Spyderco's Hawkbill blades.
 
now that Cutlerylover posted a video on his new Dodo and said he searched for one for years after selling his first one, I remembered how cool and odd this blade was but how well designed it happened to be,

it is definitely a good time for a comeback with some updates but keeping the essence of the design! :thumbsup:
 
DSB_85 said:
now that Cutlerylover posted a video on his new Dodo and said he searched for one for years after selling his first one, I remembered how cool and odd this blade was but how well designed it happened to be,

it is definitely a good time for a comeback with some updates but keeping the essence of the design! :thumbsup:
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As agile, versatile and ergonomic as the original DODO model is I can only imagine what a bigger scale, larger blade/handle version of the Dodo would be like. Especially in Spyderedge I could see it as a premium EDC, hard use folder. With so many jurisdictions, cities and some states having outrageous and totally ridiculous blade length laws this could be a great way to get around those sickening laws. Because the original Dodo could do so many cutting jobs a bigger unit could really be a great option for people who have to live under outrageous laws.
 
I'd love a g10 Harpy, fully serrated for me please. Inever handled a Dodo, so I dont know about that one. I am loving my new Spyderhawk.
 
Don W said:
I'd love a g10 Harpy, fully serrated for me please. Inever handled a Dodo, so I dont know about that one. I am loving my new Spyderhawk.
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Don it seems like everyone who gets a Spyderco Hawkbill and gives it a chance to be used as a utility blade or a companion blade which is what I use Hawkbills for it seems like very few people have anything negative to say about Hawkbill blades who actually give them a fair trial run.

Why Spyderco hasn't re-introduced the G-10 Harpy is just beyond me>> because the Harpy is actually target marketed to the fishing industry most of all and you would think that anyone working in wet conditions would demand a folder with a grippy handle. I own and have used several Spyders with stainless handles and I'm using one today ( Stainless RESCUE model, 1999 era) but G-10 gives you at least 3 times better grip/purchase IMO.
 
Don W said:
I'd love a g10 Harpy, fully serrated for me please. Inever handled a Dodo, so I dont know about that one. I am loving my new Spyderhawk.
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Yeah I've been using my H-1 Spyderhawk a lot lately. But I still long for a G-10 Harpy because for a companion blade to my main EDC ( M390 Military) I find that the Harpy can do about 95% of my daily cutting chores and the Spyderhawk is a rather large, bulky EDC. It always amazed me as to how great the G-10 Harpy performed for it's size.

Also I'm just dying for a Spyderedged Dodo model to return as well.
 
Yep the spyderhawk is a bit of a hog in the pocket. As such my tasman salt sees more use. I owned and operated a landscape company for over a decade. I came to rely on my tasman salt. What a super-useful tool.
 
fonedork said:
I’d rather a superhawk than a g10 harpy
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You know I personally would rather have the G-10 Harpy but I would also want a full Spyderedged SUPERHAWK as well. To me if the SUPERHAWK had been offered in PE & SE both I truly believe that model would have never been discontinued. You can usually do about 20 times more cutting jobs efficiently with a serrated Hawkbill over a plain edged Hawkbill. I've yet to get anyone from this Forum or over at Spyderco.com forum to tell me how plain edged Hawkbills excel over Spyderedged units. That's because it's not even close.

A full Spyderedged SUPERHAWK would truly be on my "gotta-have" list and I would get one ASAP if they ever cave in and make one.
 
JD Spydo said:
You know I personally would rather have the G-10 Harpy but I would also want a full Spyderedged SUPERHAWK as well. To me if the SUPERHAWK had been offered in PE & SE both I truly believe that model would have never been discontinued. You can usually do about 20 times more cutting jobs efficiently with a serrated Hawkbill over a plain edged Hawkbill. I've yet to get anyone from this Forum or over at Spyderco.com forum to tell me how plain edged Hawkbills excel over Spyderedged units. That's because it's not even close.

A full Spyderedged SUPERHAWK would truly be on my "gotta-have" list and I would get one ASAP if they ever cave in and make one.
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Well, I think plain edged blades would excel over spyderedged blades in self defense, where serrations are something that could get caught on clothing, zippers etc and you prefer a quicker plain edged blade. Serrations are ideal for sawing motions but if you are not sawing through things but doing hard fast single cuts, the serrations don't really belong. I think the superhawk, with its thick stock, hawkbill flat ground plain edge blade is ideal for self defense. It's basically a velociraptor claw in your pocket. I have a spyderhawk which is horrifyingly scary looking with its serrations, but I think in general serrations are bad for self defense for the reasons stated and I think the superhawk is primarily a self defense knife, not just because of the thick ground flat stock but also the lined handles and compression lock, tactical Emerson-ey feel. I probably was being a bit obnoxious or off topic chiming in about it on this thread. But yeah, I totally disagree with you about the spyderedge on the superhawk, I think it would ruin it. FWIW the spyderhawk is very thick at the spine as well and I actually prefer it to the superhawk because it is so ridiculously lightweight and has invincible steel, with the H1 serration magic synergy. I even like the orange handles. It is an absolutely amazing knife. You should absolutely pick one up if you haven't yet, I think you'll be very pleased.
 
Interesting food for thought you have there "FoneDork" >> Michael Janich over at the main Spyderco.com forum as said pretty much what you have stated. I mainly like Spyderedges for certain types of work I get at times. I find a Spyderedge is great for cutting certain types of materials that are otherwise tough to cut with a plain edge. As far as Self Defense goes Mr. Janich has convinced me that a plain edged wharncliffe type blade has premium slashing power. I also like the C-60 Massad Ayoob folder that Spyderco made some time back in PE because the ergonomics on that blade are super.
I no longer deem any of my Hawkbills to be ideal for self defense but I still think that the Reverse S blade has some redeeming values to it. I particularly like my MATRIARCH SE model when I carry a SD blade. Let's just hope our ultimate defense never has to be relied on any knife>> especially if your adversary has a gun. I just look at a knife as being better than nothing at all anymore. Michael Janich does have a lot of good commentary on the subject.
 
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