A.G. Russel Dozier?

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Are the A.G. Russel Dozier knives the same as you would get if you ordered from Mr.Dozier? I know you could get custom options,I'm talking about steel,heat treat,warranty,etc..

60-61 seems very hard.How hard are they to sharpen? Easy to chip? I don't pry or chop with knives but I usually cut through the center of the chest cartilage when I dress a deer.
 
I've purchased two Doziers through them, a Pro-Guide, and a Yukon Pro-Skinner.
As far as I know, they're the same as if you were buying them from "The Man" himself.
 
Dozier specializes in D2 so his heat treatment makes for durable knives. Usually people specify blade hardness over a two point RC scale range, such as 59-61. If Dozier is controlling the hardness tighter than that and specs 60-61 it is probably as reliable or more so than the 59-61 stuff. It probably means that the target is 60.5, which is a nice choice for D2.

The primary bevel on the knives is usually hollow ground. This means that you have less material to remove when you sharpen (hence it isn't a big problem). They are intended to cut well. Someone else will have to comment on how well they would work on bone, but I wouldn't expect trouble on cartilage. If you wanted to chop through heavy bones I would pick a different alloy and a convex blade contour.
 
For the standard Dozier models I believe they are the same blades and have the same warranty etc. To your second question, I have the Master Skinner with maple burl from AGR and also field dress through chest the way you describe. I have had good success following up with a Sharpmaker when needed, and never experienced any chipping. Of the 6 "quality" hunting knives that I own and have used in dressing many a deer, the master skinner remains my favorite in terms of overall design and durability of the edge. It will handle all the necessary chores like nobody's business. If you like the Dozier for hunting- I would highly recommend.
 
T may be wrong since I am relying on my feeble memory, but I think that the AG Russell Dozier is a full flat grind.
 
MikeH said:
T may be wrong since I am relying on my feeble memory, but I think that the AG Russell Dozier is a full flat grind.
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The flat grinds were on certain Dozier knives that A.G. Russell offered, which were partially made outside the Dozier shop. These knives were marked "Dozier Arkansas Knives" to differentiate them from the fully hand-made "Dozier Arkansas Made" knives. I don't believe these knives are available any more, all on the A.G. Russell site are hand made. The only difference is that on a few of the standard models sold through A.G. Russell, there is a small divot cut on each handle slab, as seen on my trusty Straight Personal below:

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As TorzJohnson said some of AG's Doziers were partially outsourced. This is from his original ad for the "Modified Personal":

"Bob Dozier's flat ground knives which are marked "Arkansas Knives" rather than "Arkansas Made" include a fair amount of outsourced work. The blades are laser cut, double disk ground and then flat ground by outside sources instead of being bandsawed, surface ground then hollow ground in his own shop. Bob insists on doing the heat treat himself to assure the quality of heat treat that he feels D2 must have. After the flat grinding, the blade is finish ground and the knife is constructed in Bob's shop here in Northwest Arkansas. You only save a few dollars over the knives he makes completely by hand, BUT you seldom have to wait for delivery."

I have one of the Modified Personals in ironwood and it's been a great knife.

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R.H.Clark said:
Are the A.G. Russel Dozier knives the same as you would get if you ordered from Mr.Dozier? I know you could get custom options,I'm talking about steel,heat treat,warranty,etc..

60-61 seems very hard.How hard are they to sharpen? Easy to chip? I don't pry or chop with knives but I usually cut through the center of the chest cartilage when I dress a deer.
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Yeah, they are.
 
TorzJohnson said:
The flat grinds were on certain Dozier knives that A.G. Russell offered, which were partially made outside the Dozier shop. These knives were marked "Dozier Arkansas Knives" to differentiate them from the fully hand-made "Dozier Arkansas Made" knives. I don't believe these knives are available any more, all on the A.G. Russell site are hand made. The only difference is that on a few of the standard models sold through A.G. Russell, there is a small divot cut on each handle slab, as seen on my trusty Straight Personal below:

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Torz has it just about right. Bob has been supplying his knives to AG Russell for decades. The Strait Personal that is offered thru AGs mail order has been a staple model. The small divot, micarta color choice, brass bolts and the makers logo on the front brass bolt are all common characteristics that appear on this model for AG.

Although it is not a cataloged model, know that the Modified Personal can be ordered from the Dozier shop direct- in either flat or hollow grind. Additionally almost any model can be flat or even convexed ground.

There continues to be models made available thru AG Russell only. One is the perennial New York Special. Of recent is the Loveless style Classic Drop Point Hunter with mirror polished 154CM, fully tapered tang, green canvas micarta, red liners, stainless soldered guard, and traditional "snap- in" wet molded leather sheaths.

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Nakano 2 said:
Torz has it just about right. Bob has been supplying his knives to AG Russell for decades. The Strait Personal that is offered thru AGs mail order has been a staple model. The small divot, micarta color choice, brass bolts and the makers logo on the front brass bolt are all common characteristics that appear on this model for AG.

Although it is not a cataloged model, know that the Modified Personal can be ordered from the Dozier shop direct- in either flat or hollow grind. Additionally almost any model can be flat or even convexed ground.

There continues to be models made available thru AG Russell only. One is the perennial New York Special. Of recent is the Loveless style Classic Drop Point Hunter with mirror polished 154CM, fully tapered tang, green canvas micarta, red liners, stainless soldered guard, and traditional "snap- in" wet molded leather sheaths.

N.

www.dozierknives.com/forum
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Can you really get the Doziers' with a flat or convex grind? Man, that would make them awesome for a woodscraft knives!!! I'm afraid to use my Doziers for anything other than flesh because of the hollow grind.
- Thanks!!! :thumbup:
 
Yes you can. But at additional cost(s) since it is a custom option. For flesh, a hollow grind will do just fine. If you need to break bone via prying, chopping or even batoning, I think you would need another blade such as a small axe or a thick stock model with perhaps different steel. The Dozier shop currently uses D2 (of course!), CPMD2, CPM154, S30V and S60V. There may be others at request. The S series may be phased out soon by the Crucible company. Call the Dozier shop for specifics. Or visit their forum. ;)

PS- I don' t think you' ll have any luck requesting for a "Scandi" grind if that' s what was in mind. :)

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