A Martial Arts Question...

Normark

Normark

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Hey Guys...

Got a question or two for you...

I quit smoking about 6 months ago, and now that I'm feeling Tons better I'm seriously thinkning about taking up a MA to recondition myself, get my lungs back into shape and get on with my life...

I would appreciate it if someone could explain Arnis and Kali to me..
What is the training like ?

I'm looking more for a weapons based MA than unarmed, and flying kicks and all that fancy footwork..
I understand that there will be some of this involved in all MS's,, but I'm not as agile as I use to be on my feet...

We have MA schools close by,, but they only teach Tea Known Do and Karate, both of which I'm not to interested in....I'd also like to get my son involved, but more into an exotic MA instead of the same stuff everyone else takes...

I'd really like to learn to work sticks and some bladework.

Forgive my somewhat uneducated questions...

ttyle

Eric...
 
Hi Eric -

First of all, congratulations on quitting smoking. I know many that have tried and failed.

It sounds like the FMA are indeed what you are looking for. I suggest doing a search online and visiting some quality FMA web sites to read up on them. There is a small FAQ on my web site though it is mainly geared toward explaining Inayan Eskrima in particular. I have no idea what may or may not be available where you live but chances are, there is something. You might have to look a little harder and deeper though as often the art is taught in a back yard or garage.

Good luck!


--
Steve Klement
Inayan Masirib Guro
www.inayaneskrima.com
klement@inayaneskrima.com
Inayan Systems International
 
I don't know the age of your son or his level of responsibility but I wouldn't allow my sons to learn lethal weaponry until I know they will properly respect the weapon and the consequences of it's use.

Secondly, for younger kids it is important to keep them interested. I don't have a high regard for the usefullness of Tae Kwon Do as it is commonly taught here in the states. Some karate schools are more about sport than reality too. BUT your son will learn some valuable things there (respect, fitness, confidence, discipline, etc) and develop some level of defense.

Basically if that's what is available, I'd start him someplace that he likes to go and keep him there until he is responsible enough for an Art with a more lethal flare if that is HIS desire.
 
Hi Steve..

Thanks for replying...

Well,, in my area,, its just the usual Karate stuff..I'm looking for something a little more unique and Exotic..

There was a link in this forum to some video clips..

Very cool.. Thats what I want to learn....

Do any of these martial arts places cross train in different arts ?
So possible someone who knows Okinawian Karate, would know and be able to teach Arnis Kali ??

I've got to look into this a little more so I can at least communicate what I want to learn...

I'll have a look at your site Steve..

Thanks much..

ttyle

Eric...
 
Hey Steve...

Made a couple of phone calls this afternoon, and found an instructor..
Actually easier than I thought..

He teaches out of a karate school near by..

From what I can gather,hes been teaching it for quite some time, teaches both Arnis and Kali, He is Filipino and holds a black belt...

His wife just had a baby,,so he won't be teaching for another month..

Ok,, in the meantime,, what do I need to get togther ??

The basics sounds like 2 blades and clothing..
Guess I'm going to need some sticks Eh...

I've got a fairly decent set of Delrin sticks,, but may be too heavy...

A little background in some gear would be cool..

Thanks

Eric...
 
I don't know about where you are looking at but
in the back yard I learn at all you need to bring is YOU!

The other things that come in handy (at my "school") are:
Two sticks 26" or 28" (Depends on your teacher)
We ALWAYS! wear plain clothes
(I.E. whatever you would be wearing when something goes wrong)
Less used things would be:
Palm stick (a stick 4"-6" long)
A full-staff (around 6')
Long-sticks 36"
Stick gloves (Protect your hand from a stick sliding down your stick)
and a Taped or unsharpened (perferablely Wood) knife.

My teacher also teaches alittle Muai Tie (Not sure on that spelling)
For us to do that we need Pads, and a Haevy-Bag.

Hope that helps! And hope your teacher teaches you well and FAST!
I hate to disagree "odie-wan" but children used to carry guns
all the time and I know some "adults" I wouldn't trust with a
butter-knife. Age has NOTHING! to do with it but if you are
learning FMA then it's NOT a sport and it is NOT safe!
 
Hey Guys...

Thanks for the advice...

As far as my son goes,, he's nine... He is one of the most mature kids that I've met for his age...

He's not sports inclined,,so I figure this would be something nice to do together, spending some Q-time other than Scouts...

Some of his friends take Karate,, and its kind of a joke,, because its more like going to soccer class for them than a MA..

I want him to learn something that is different, and that not many people know...
He understands the seriousness of it, and understand that it can be brutal if used against someone..He has a very high respect for life, and has been around guns and knives,, (many many knives) since he was very young... I trust him 110% with both my knives and the knives he owns and keeps in his dresser...

Mentally I think he can handle it...
Don't know what will happen the first time he gets whacked though..:)

Patrick..

Thanks for the tips on the weapons..
will have to look into some training blades,,or have them made...
What types of blades are usually used for this...The ones I have seen look like frigging machettes only bigger... I can handle that!!

Any good sites you know of that sell that sort of stuff ???


Thanks

Eric...
 
A good stick source is (KIL) kombat instruments limited. He is a dog brother and sells GREAT sticks! Do a search for them.

Indonesian Silat Schools are worth investigating as well!


Bill
 
Edges2 for blade trainers. A couple of economy "gatorbacks" is all you need...

Do a search for them as well!

Bill
 
Things you'll need:

-1 or 2 pairs of rattan sticks(28" X 1" is average)
http://www.bloodsport.com/product.htm

-A roll of Black Gaffers Tape or Black Electricians Tape for when the sticks start to splinter(you tape the splintering area to make them last longer)

-1 training knife(probably won't use it for a while as a beginner)
http://www.trainingblades.com

-Ice hockey gloves(ones that aren't too stiff) for sparring.

-Baseball gloves(for those that don't want callouses and want extra grip when the hands get sweaty).

-Dit Da Jow(Chinese bruise liniment)
http://briangray.com/liniment.htm
http://www.springwind.com/Templates/frmTemplateX.asp?SubFolderID=21&SearchYN=N
http://www.bluepoppy.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=8&CATID=7&ObjectGroup_ID=20
...or from local Chinese herb store

-Stick bag
top of the line ones:
http://www.bladerigger.com/stickbag.html (29" model)
http://www.bloodsport.com/product.htm ("The Imperial")

-Sports goggles/glasses if your want to protect your eyes from an accidental hit.(I have only seen a few people wearing these. I have to admit that wearing safety goggles saved me from serious injury at a Pekiti-Tirsia seminar. Tuhon McGrath can HIT! :D He was deflecting my strike by powering through it...sent my stick back into my face. Good thing he made all of us wear safety goggles/glasses.)

Hmmm...what else...

-Pants: Normal black karate gi pants in black(I like heavyweight canvas). Or the school might wear custom printed sweatpants, etc.
http://www.centuryma.com
http://www.awma.com

-Reading Material:

"Filipino Martial Culture" by Mark V. Wiley. It covers a bunch of FMA styles...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...102-3706988-0498552?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

"Filipino Martial Arts Magazine"
http://www.filipinomag.com

That's about all I can think of...hope this helps.
 
Normark
Congratulations on quiting smoking. That should add some years to your life. Now that will give you more time with your son.

There were alot of good video clip in this forum, thanks guys. When you look for a teacher make sure he can flow and move like the videos. There are alot of so called instructors in fma but, unless you have seen the real thing it is easy to be tricked. Some of the best instruction has been in back yards from the old timers.

Your instructor will let you know if your son can train or not. I have studied both with children and some schools who won't allow anyone under 15. Both were top notch schools. Your instructor will know if your son can handle it or not. I have also studied with troubled kids headed in the wrong direction and this art changed their life around. Again all dictated by the intructor.

All you really need is a strong desire to learn and a pair of 28' rattan sticks. Good luck with your training.
"Start after the enemy to be sure but, arrive before him to safe" Sun Tzu The art of war
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