A Mile In Their Shoes...

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Take a look at a truck spring, and then at a HI khuk, and try and figure out how the one turns into the other.

Today, I tried to make a khukuri. I went over to my blacksmith friend's place, picked a 3' length of half-inch truck leaf spring out of the scrap pile,and set to work.

Of course, it wasn't a fair comparison. My pal has one of the best equipped traditional 'smiths' shops you're likely to find in this country; two fine 3cwt London-pattern anvils, coal-fired forge with electric blower, power hammer, full range of fullers, swages, setts, hammers; also bench and hand grinders, propane and oxy torches, belt grinder, the works. If Bura were to walk into the place, he'd think he was in metalworkers' heaven.

(NB: I'm not new at this. I can make a decent Bowie knife in a morning; an adequate double-edged medieval-type sword or Roman gladius in a day. I've made tomahawks and a broad-axe.)

Stage one; put up a bottom fuller in the hardie-hole of the power-hammer anvil, draw the half-inch by two inch stock down to one inch by a tad over three-eighths; flatten out, then draw down a slight taper towards what's destined to be the point end. Even with the power hammer &c this was two hours of gruelling work

Stage two; replace the bottom fuller with a top-and-bottom spring tool fuller to thin out the middle while leaving the spine and the edge sections at about 3/8". Still using the power hammer. One hour.

Stage three; forge the bevels using a 4lb straight-pein sledge; straighten the blade as it curves away from the edge (ie in the wrong direction); clamp a U-bend in the vise and put in the "elbow" bend; this proved to be a very difficult step, needing a dozen heats. Two hours

Stage four; draw out the tang (power and hand hammers; piece of cake) then cut the blade off the rest of the spring using a hot sett (basically a chisel on a stick; looks like a small axe) while my pal swung the 12lb sledge; then create the point by drawing metal up at the end. Made a hash of the last step. One hour.

Stage five; straightening, plenishing out the worst of the scale inclusions, hammer mis-strikes and other screw-ups; heating the blade up and hardening; grinding; tempering; two hours.

That was enough hard work for one day. If I can be bothered to finish this khuk, there's another 3 or 4 hours grinding, filing &c; 3 hours more, to clean it up, polish it &c; another hour or so for sharpening. Then I can start making a handle; a day's work on its own.

The end result of today's experiment is an ugly, vaguely khuk-shaped 23" 3lb steel banana. It curves in more or less the right place, the bevels are kinda even, the edge is relatively free of kinks & wibbles; the heat treatment worked ok, so it should hold an edge and be up to doing hard work without breaking. Sharpened, it'll get the job done. But it resembles a BirGhorka product like the guy in the street resembles a movie star, or a chimp resembles a human. No style, no grace, no beauty. The only part of it that's up to HI standards is the tang.

Look you upon this picture (as the poet says) and on this; an eye like Mars to threaten and command, or a mildewed ear. I used to reckon the guys at BirGhorka were something special. Now I think I can begin to understand.
 
Tom-- great post! Sounds like fun (and a lot of work even with modern conveniences.) It makes me appreciate what the kamis do even more.
--Josh
 
great post, nice perspective on the incredible effort which is required. How long do you think it would take without the power tools?

Oh, and can you make one with a "smiley face" cho?



Thanks again,


Kis
:rolleyes:
 
I want a smilie face cho!!!

I think that it would be *slightly* easier if you watched the kami's do it - there are probably easier ways to get from point A to point B than the one you took. But, that's just a guess, and I think you're right, a lot of experience, skill, and hard work go into these knives.

Thanks for the report!
 
Originally posted by Kismet

Oh, and can you make one with a "smiley face" cho?




I didn't have the effrontery to cut in a cho, or a Sword of Shiva. You only get them on *real* khukuris...
 
WOW! Thanks for the blow by blow ( pardon the pun;) ) report on khukuri making. I've wondered how it would be to make one in a modern shop, and you've gone a long way toward answering that question.

You need to post some pix ( if you are able) of the process and the finished "Holt bent knife"
 
Can I hire you to make kuks for $0.35 an hour?
No? What???
You gotta be crazy...I mean you said you have one of the best shops.

BTW, we NEED pics, preferably step-by-step
Thanks.:)
 
One more request for the pics - I'd be willing to bet our opinions of your "bent knife" would be a tad higher than your own :)
 
Walosi, I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I think a picture now and another when the thing is done would tell the story real well. I doubt if it looks as bad as he is telling us either.:)
 
I suspect an HI Kami can probably punch one out in about the time it takes us to read this thread.

Another vote for pictures.

n2s
 
Tom recently made a new handle for my WW2 Bura. The work was good and perfectly done, the wood is Lignum Vitae and has a real nice look and feel to it.

If Tom's work is anything to go by I think he is doing himself a misjustice and I agree with the Frog, we would probably think more highly of his work than he gives himself credit for !!

Thnaks again Tom.
 
Tom
Your post just reinforces my amazement at what a paltry $125 will buy at HI.

Semp --
 
No luck.
 

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Thanks, Uncle Bill, for posting that picture. Take a look at the resources available to the guys at BirGorkha (and bear in mind that they've got probably the best facilities in the whole of Nepal) Then consider the quality of the work they produce.

I wonder; what would the kamis reckon to a Western anvil? I simply can't understand how they put in the curve without a bick (horn), or how they can get long blades straight without a 17" table (the main working area of the anvil) How do they fuller the blades without a bottom fuller? Most of all, how the heck can they hammer thick, tough steel crouching down on the floor?

Spent three hours grinding the steel banana, forming an edge &c. As said before, it's probably functional, tho' I made it far heavier than I'd have liked. But it's ugly, and the blade geometry is poor, and even after extensive tarting up with the angle grinder (those flapwheel discs are an absolute godsend to the lazy smith...)it looks *messy*.

If someone else will post them for me (I don't know how to do it) I'll take a couple of pix of it once it's been polished up and fitted with a handle. Next to it, I'll put my 20" village model. The ridiculous and the sublime...
 
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