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hello Folks,
Friday I recieved a call that my folks had a package for me
(I'm a student and I can't recieve packages when I am at the university)
... Anxious I awaited saturnday when i would be going home
After a day I finally recieved my package..
A delica/endura matching couple with a spyderco 204 sharpmaker...
Now can you imagine a better set for the money ???
Both delica and endura are in VG-10 steel, and flat ground insted of hollow. Not fully flat ground, saber ground. Lockup is tight with a distinctive snap when engaging. I have no problems trusting this lock, I have two endura's and none has yet failed me, while I
put them trough some rough work where a linerlock might have failed. Off course, the endura's are no sharpened prybars (like some other knives I am not gonna name
), they are die-hard matter seperators, and nothing more or less. And at cutting, you'll be looking hard to get the same level of quality and performance at that price.
Both knives were extremely sharp out of the box, as I have come to expect from spyderco. I was not let down, both knives are hair poppers. I remeber my first endura, I tried to replicate the edge soooo many times without satisfying results...
I don't know how spyderco sharpens their knives, but get the excact same result with a 320 grit AO belt and a buffer. Lately I'm moving to trizacts for sharpening and use 320's only for creating the edge at fresh hardened knives.
Word of warning :
Using a bench grinder for sharpening is not easy ( I ruined quit some knives ) nor safe, as well for you (ever seen a blade fly trough a shop ?) as for the blade (overheating).
sorry for the sidestep about sharpening
I really like flat grinds since I got the hang of the spyderco military, but the look of a flat grind on an endura is something I need to get used to. I dunno why..I'm used to benchmade producing saber ground blades, but not spyderco.
But.. when I first cut with the blade ( a cardboard box to shred
) it zipped trough a knife trough water. I was pretty amazed ( Spyderco standard issue feature ). I checked the blade to find out why.. couldn't really tell at first, but it was defenitely at
spyderco military level, tad better even. The benchmade 806 D2 axis performed worse for some odd reason. The VG-10 is truly amazing stuff.. this is by far the finest grained stainless steel I ever felt ( except the powder steels).
I had only one box to shred, but the endura didn't really notice.. I must have cut 50 foot cardboard untill the box was in small enough parts to get a famous qoute from my mam : " Next time, you cut the noodles.. and clean up ALL parts. "
OK off to some tougher stuff... fresh oak wood. I chopped down a oak tree a week or two ago, so i could cut some tips to some stakes. ehhh actually i took a 0.75 inch stake of 2 foot and started cutting it to a tip.. when the stake was about 1 foot left and my feet were covered in woodchips, I examined the edge again. It was still cutting trough paper altough not Hairpopping anymore. Time to test the 204 !!
I dunno but the manual that comes with it is probably the best ever written in the knifeworld on how to sharpen. I read it cover to cover with great interest, it really reads easy and the pictures are very good. After a bit of practice on a kitchenknife, I took my endura to the white stones on the flat side. (2 wipes on each side) x 10 and the knife was back to hairpopping. Amazing again because if you set the sharpmaker up it doesn't really look like a revolutionary sharpener nor impressive. But.. what it can do it is more then impressive, it's almost magical. Cleaning the stones is a bit harder,
I got scotchbrite, but no powdered abrasives... So I use dishwasher stuff, works too.. just messy and scrubbing a bit more
Now the best part.. the delica:
I gave it to my girlfriend ( kinda cute gift .. same knife only large and small, matching set). She tested it for me over a week, opened various things, shred some boxes as well. It was not dull at all, took hair off my arm just like new. Sooo we decided to make some orgigami things from brass sheeth.. So we had to cut brass sheeth
now that took the hairpopping edge off relatively fast, but it kept cutting and deburring the brass untill we were out off brass.
Again to the 204, except that I actually bought it for her - she has quit some knives too and makes some occasionally too. I wondered how she could handle the 204. I let her watch the video while I was
studying for the next exam. Then she tried right off on the delica, and it was hairpopping right away... I gotta watch the video too someday
So all in all, I think this set is coming when we are going camping, the delica/endura and the 204. Probably the best starters kit for any knife nut, and highly recommended by me.
Great buys and awsome cutters.
Greetz and take care
P.S. I could have scanned the couple and uploaded them, but I figured both are that common among knifenuts... in retrospect.. would you folks have liked to see pics ?
BART.
Friday I recieved a call that my folks had a package for me
(I'm a student and I can't recieve packages when I am at the university)
... Anxious I awaited saturnday when i would be going home

After a day I finally recieved my package..
A delica/endura matching couple with a spyderco 204 sharpmaker...
Now can you imagine a better set for the money ???
Both delica and endura are in VG-10 steel, and flat ground insted of hollow. Not fully flat ground, saber ground. Lockup is tight with a distinctive snap when engaging. I have no problems trusting this lock, I have two endura's and none has yet failed me, while I
put them trough some rough work where a linerlock might have failed. Off course, the endura's are no sharpened prybars (like some other knives I am not gonna name

Both knives were extremely sharp out of the box, as I have come to expect from spyderco. I was not let down, both knives are hair poppers. I remeber my first endura, I tried to replicate the edge soooo many times without satisfying results...
I don't know how spyderco sharpens their knives, but get the excact same result with a 320 grit AO belt and a buffer. Lately I'm moving to trizacts for sharpening and use 320's only for creating the edge at fresh hardened knives.
Word of warning :
Using a bench grinder for sharpening is not easy ( I ruined quit some knives ) nor safe, as well for you (ever seen a blade fly trough a shop ?) as for the blade (overheating).
sorry for the sidestep about sharpening

I really like flat grinds since I got the hang of the spyderco military, but the look of a flat grind on an endura is something I need to get used to. I dunno why..I'm used to benchmade producing saber ground blades, but not spyderco.
But.. when I first cut with the blade ( a cardboard box to shred

spyderco military level, tad better even. The benchmade 806 D2 axis performed worse for some odd reason. The VG-10 is truly amazing stuff.. this is by far the finest grained stainless steel I ever felt ( except the powder steels).
I had only one box to shred, but the endura didn't really notice.. I must have cut 50 foot cardboard untill the box was in small enough parts to get a famous qoute from my mam : " Next time, you cut the noodles.. and clean up ALL parts. "

OK off to some tougher stuff... fresh oak wood. I chopped down a oak tree a week or two ago, so i could cut some tips to some stakes. ehhh actually i took a 0.75 inch stake of 2 foot and started cutting it to a tip.. when the stake was about 1 foot left and my feet were covered in woodchips, I examined the edge again. It was still cutting trough paper altough not Hairpopping anymore. Time to test the 204 !!
I dunno but the manual that comes with it is probably the best ever written in the knifeworld on how to sharpen. I read it cover to cover with great interest, it really reads easy and the pictures are very good. After a bit of practice on a kitchenknife, I took my endura to the white stones on the flat side. (2 wipes on each side) x 10 and the knife was back to hairpopping. Amazing again because if you set the sharpmaker up it doesn't really look like a revolutionary sharpener nor impressive. But.. what it can do it is more then impressive, it's almost magical. Cleaning the stones is a bit harder,
I got scotchbrite, but no powdered abrasives... So I use dishwasher stuff, works too.. just messy and scrubbing a bit more

Now the best part.. the delica:
I gave it to my girlfriend ( kinda cute gift .. same knife only large and small, matching set). She tested it for me over a week, opened various things, shred some boxes as well. It was not dull at all, took hair off my arm just like new. Sooo we decided to make some orgigami things from brass sheeth.. So we had to cut brass sheeth

Again to the 204, except that I actually bought it for her - she has quit some knives too and makes some occasionally too. I wondered how she could handle the 204. I let her watch the video while I was
studying for the next exam. Then she tried right off on the delica, and it was hairpopping right away... I gotta watch the video too someday

So all in all, I think this set is coming when we are going camping, the delica/endura and the 204. Probably the best starters kit for any knife nut, and highly recommended by me.
Great buys and awsome cutters.
Greetz and take care
P.S. I could have scanned the couple and uploaded them, but I figured both are that common among knifenuts... in retrospect.. would you folks have liked to see pics ?
BART.