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A little while ago, I posted a picture of part of a branch of a Hawthorn (Crataegus spp.) showing the thorns.

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I mentioned that among other things, the thorn could be used as a needle for emergency sewing repairs. The more
I thought about it, the more I realized that for some people the information goes in one eye and out the other (????).
In other words, unless they see the application in person, so to speak, it doesn't remain with them. So, I decided to
do a step by step.

In this first picture, you can see the split in the thorn because another thorn is holding the split open. In practice,
you split the thorn up from the base (the wider end) to the point about 1/2 to 1/3 of the way.

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In order to 'thread' this 'needle', you hold the split apart and insert the fibre, in this case some Indian Hemp
(Apocynum cannibinum) fibre. I didn't refine the fibres as I felt a better visual was presented this way. Note that
this is a lot easier to thread than the eye of a conventional needle, especially for us older guys.

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In this picture you see the needle and thread part of the way through some material. The thing that keeps the
fibre from coming out of the thorn is that, first of all, because of the taper of the thorn, as the thorn is forced
through the material, the material squeezes the thorn together, trapping the fibre. Secondly, you squeeze the
two halves together as you push the thorn through with your fingers, as well.

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In this picture, the needle is almost all the way through showing that the fibre came through with the thorn.

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In this picture, 1 stitch, or 1/2 a stitch, depending how you look at it.

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At this point, I switched to some darker material, thinking that the fibre would show up better. You can see
the rip opened up (darn Buck 271). If this happened in some crucial winter gear, and perhaps was quite a bit
bigger, or some buttons came off, preventing you from closing up your parka, etc., this could possibly be life
threatening in a very cold environment, thus the importance of learning this technique.

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And here is the repair. Note that this is not supposed to be a how-to on proper sewing techniques but rather
to show the capability of the thorn and fibre.

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So, I hope this is clear. If you have any questions feel free. BTW, you will notice the tip of the needle was a
little blunt. I didn't notice this at first, so since it presented a bit of a problem, I made the hole through the
fabric, with a more intact thorn first, then ran the 'needle' through. This is not always necessary, but will work
if needed.

Oh, and by the way, while I'm on the topic of Hawthorn thorns, here is the business end of a little fish gaff
that I made with Hawthorn and Teasel (Dipsacus sylvestris) as the main stalk. I have never tried it out, but
see no reason it would not work on small fish.

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Anyway, thanks for looking,

Doc
 
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Neat information. I don't think I've ever seen thorns that long in my area though. Is that plant native to your area, or am I just not paying enough attention (very possible)?
 
Neat information. I don't think I've ever seen thorns that long in my area though. Is that plant native to your area, or am I just not paying enough attention (very possible)?

Hey storl,

I can't say for sure, but I would think there are Hawthorn in your area. Check with your local authorities.

They are pretty widespread with many different species, including a few without thorns.

Doc
 
Nice post and pictures Doc. I love hawthornes. Yours truly found and nominated the current National Champion Crataegus flava.
 
Great stuff. I wish we had hawthorn around here, looks like it's very useful.
 
Man, thats sweet. Lovin the look of this thread.
 
Thanks all, for your comments.

Feedback is important because if nothing else, it tells the author of a thread that their efforts were worthwhile. Of course, it's always nicer if all the feedback is positive. :D

Doc
 
Great stuff Doc, I don't think about stuff like this except when I read a post such as yours and like you say it's instruction such as this that could help save your life.
Could you not have sharpened up the end a little with your knife or does this remove the tougher outer fibre weakening the needle tip ?
 
Great post DOC!

We have an orchard full of Hawthorn behind the office. Probably 50 or 60 mature trees in the orchard and several scraglers as well. Got Buckthorn bushes too. Its amazing how strong the thorns are. They break away from the branch rather easily but are surprisingly tough. I've pulled 'em out of the bottom of my shoes more than once after stepping on some broken branches.

Thanks for the tip.
 
I have an ample supply of thorns around here:

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That last one in particular looks like something that should be growing in Mordor.

Thanks for the info, Doc!
 
Great stuff Doc, I don't think about stuff like this except when I read a post such as yours and like you say it's instruction such as this that could help save your life.
Could you not have sharpened up the end a little with your knife or does this remove the tougher outer fibre weakening the needle tip ?

Thanks pitdog.

I couldn't honestly answer your question, so I gave it a try. I wasn't sure if the inner part of the thorn might be softer and therefore not be able to be sharpened. I shaved a bit off of the tip and then scraped a bit more. The result?

Here's the thorn that appeared in my post. I inserted more fibre for appearance. I don't know if it will show up, but the end is more sharp, although not as sharp as thorns right off the bush. However, the point might be a little beefier, causing less problem with breakage. I should also mention that I have found that thorns from different species, have different taper rates. Some taper fairly quickly to the point, others not so much. This also would affect the strength of the point and the ease at which the thorn could be pushed through the fabric.

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I tried pushing it through the same fabric as yesterday, and it went through with no problem at all.

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So to answer your question, yes, it could be sharpened up a little to do the job. I didn't bother, yesterday, because, between juggling the thread, needle, fabric, camera, tripod, etc., I thought faster is better. Besides, the issue of the needle not being sharp enough and using another thorn to make the hole, was addressed.

Doc
 
Thats a great Post Doc. You do make some cool things. I have seen pics and how to but never realy had to try it.. Your post explain it very well thanks again...

Sasha
 
Could also use the sewing awl on an SAK, either to do the sewing, or at least to poke the hole for the thorn needle. I've always thought that it would be a real pain to sew with that awl, since you'd basically be poking the hole, then the thread through the hole, pulling the thread out of the sewing eye on the awl, then doing the whole tedious thing over. Using a natural needle makes a lot of sense. I don't know if we have Hawthorne around here, but we do have an awful lot of plants that grow strong needles (Sonoran Desert).
 
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