A question about 119 spacers

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I just today aquired a 119 with the bone hard spacers and I see that the spacer is small, not covering the whole top of the guard. My next oldest one is also a two line but with micarta spacers. It and all the others that I have up until they went from four to three spacers, cover the whole top of the guard.

Did the bone hard spacers ever cover the whole top?
 
My 1-line 119 and 2-line 119 & 120 have short bone hard fiber spacers. My 2-line 119 & 120 with micarta spacers are full. I have a bone hard fiber 2-line twinset with a 102 and 103 which are full, although the guards on those two knives are considerably smaller than the 119 & 120 have.
 
My twinset (103 and 118) also have the full micarta spacers at the guard. I only have one other specimen, a two line 118 that has bone hard spacers and although the guard is much smaller, it does have a full coverage spacer.

I've heard of 119's with the small spacers of micarta, but I've never seen one. If anyone has a picture of one they'd post, I'd appreciate it.
 
I have a 119, three line blade stamp that has 4 micarta spacers and the finger guard spacer is clipped. I will attempt to take a picture of it. My camera is acting stupid but I think I can get it with my phone. If I get it I will post it.
 
Dave,

If you have the the BCCI CD's of the 20th club event at post falls, I think Joe H did a seminar on the early fixed blades and he covered that topic! The mind is a funny thing...I could be wrong and I may have read the info here on an old thread.....Just can't be sure;). As I'm not an expert on those I will not share what I remember....as it is hearsay.
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jb4570 said:
Dave,

If you have the the BCCI CD's of the 20th club event at post falls, I think Joe H did a seminar on the early fixed blades and he covered that topic! The mind is a funny thing...I could be wrong and I may have read the info here on an old thread.....Just can't be sure;). As I'm not an expert on those I will not share what I remember....as it is hearsay.
jb4570
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The subject has been discussed on a few occasions but can be talked about again. I don't think it was talked about in the CDs but I may be wrong. It may have been glossed over quickly. The spacer was clipped because they separated from the finger guard and had a tendency to get hung up on things. As hunters sent them in for repair Buck just started to clip the spacer close to the handle to alleviate the problem and solve the issue on future knives.
 
I have a copy of the handout from that meeting that was sent to me by David Martin along with his notations. I don't see anywhere in that handout where anything other than the type of spacers that were used. Nothing about the size of them.

I asked for a set of those CD's quite awhile ago but John Foresman said they were out of them until more could be made. I've heard no more about them since.
 
mbjannusch said:
The subject has been discussed on a few occasions but can be talked about again. I don't think it was talked about in the CDs but I may be wrong. It may have been glossed over quickly. The spacer was clipped because they separated from the finger guard and had a tendency to get hung up on things. As hunters sent them in for repair Buck just started to clip the spacer close to the handle to alleviate the problem and solve the issue on future knives.
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Was the issue of separation from the guard a topic discussed on the CD's? I remember very well here on the forum when that theory was brought forth and full credit taken for, by BG42Edge.

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As to why some spacers on the guard were trimmed and some were left long......that happened a couple of ways, I think.

Some tended to separate at the outside end of the protruding part of the guard.

Those had to be fixed, one way or another.

Some workers decided to avoid that problem by trimming them when the knife was made.

Eventually all were trimmed as they came off the line.

Some never separated at all, so we still have a lot of full-length inside guard spacers."

When question about it, the responce was:

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David, you haven't read it because I'm the first to offer an answer.

Nobody else has been able to come up with an answer.

As I said, I see an old one every once in a while on e-Bay that has separated a bit, so my conclusion is a logical answer and unless you find one of the workers who will hold forth with information to the contrary......you're stuck with it.

And that's the long and short of the spacer issue.



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Perhaps that's what you're remembering?
 
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John, I was pretty sure that the subject of spacer size or coverage wasn't covered in the CD. I've discussed the spacer issue with David Martin (who attended the seminar). He took many notes in addition to the hand out and doesn't recall the subject being discussed. I've looked a hundreds of photos of 119's on the auction site and have never seen one with the large spacer curled or loose. In fact, I'd never seen one with the "trimmed" spacer until the picture of one was posted here.

Even Joe Houser seemed not to know the answer to the small vs large spacers. I think someone's "theory" or "conclusion" has since become a "factoid".;)

"A factoid is a questionable or spurious (unverified, false, or fabricated) statement presented as a fact, but with no veracity. The word can also be used to describe a particularly insignificant or novel fact, in the absence of much relevant context.[1]

The word is defined by the Compact Oxford English Dictionary as "an item of unreliable information that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact"."
 
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