A question for you 300 fans

[Plumberdv]

I'd like to know when the Buck 329 Freedom Trapper was manufactured. I'm a little confused because the blade states "For over 200 years.. Liberty and Justice For All" which would lead me to think after 1976, but the Pledge printed inside the box cover is missing the "Under God" part which was added in 1954.

 

[300Bucks]

Well,
Were you looking at the one on the bay currently ?

Guess you aren't thinking either the knife or box is pre 54 because they ain't.
Why the box says that may be lost to time and only Joe might ever be able to find a record of order maybe and it may not give a clue.....BUT

This was a contract made knife for SMKWs by Buck, my knife is #1541, the back of my belt buckle says 1985, C + J Co., CJ1002, Made in USA. I purchased my knife with no standard Buck paperwork inside. Was the box subcontracted to someone else or did it come along with the belt buckle or the knife ? (chicken or egg)......lots of trails to follow. Larry Oden discusses them in context of the late 80's,early 90's. I would hazard a guess these were part of the several knives issued with partriotic themes during those years.

Knife is found with and without markings

SMKW is friendly when you call about stuff like this but tell you they have no records or even file of old catalogs......remember to close the blades before storing on all these knives that come half open in display box.

This may be one of those we will never know unless one of the lurkers out there looked into it back when.
300Bucks

 

[Pack Rat]

I am guessing that the Buck family did not print up that box. They would have never left out Under God! Or someone really messed up and got the older version.

 

[Plumberdv]

I am guessing that the Buck family did not print up that box. They would have never left out Under God! Or someone really messed up and got the older version.[/QUOTE

It's my bet that there are millions of people today who would think that it's a misprint. I know that my son (47 this year) didn't know about the original version until I told him.

 

[Pack Rat]

It's my bet that there are millions of people today who would think that it's a misprint. I know that my son (47 this year) didn't know about the original version until I told him.

It is interesting reading. Everyone should read up on it.

 

[110 Dave]

I am guessing that the Buck family did not print up that box. They would have never left out Under God! Or someone really messed up and got the older version. It's my bet that there are millions of people today who would think that it's a misprint. I know that my son (47 this year) didn't know about the original version until I told him.

It is interesting reading. Everyone should read up on it.

i could get flamed for this but..
some i have debated with believe the word GOD
was put added in response topressure from
the Catholic Church (via The Knights of Columbus)
and
(historal note:Jehovah's Witnesses would not recite the pledge because they considered our flag as a idol thing because 'god' was not on it )
Dwight Eisenhower was a JW and it was he that had "under god" added ...

so it was (as they maintained)
the worlds largest church and a person raised in a "cult" that had it added ..
some persons that may resent this and
as privet persons any one can make or order any thing with the
Official National Pledge enacted in 1942 by Congress
or the "revised" 1954 version

 

[Plumberdv]

You shouldn't get flamed. According to Wilkipedia, that's actually where the movement started.

"The Knights of Columbus, the world's largest Catholic fraternal service organization, in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity.[4] Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" which were from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge.[citation needed] In New York City on April 30, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed."

 

[110 Dave]

my X-wife's father (a mason and Shriner),
was who "informed me" about 'Ike'..
did not like him at all..