A quick NYC story

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charlesbjr

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Just a quick NYC story.

My wife dropped my daughter off at school and when she came home, the front door was open. As such, the police were called by my alarm company.

A whole army of LEOs arrived in seconds and my wife (while hiding at our neighbor's house) told them that she thought an intruder was in my home (I am going somewhere with this).

Over a dozen LEOs stormed my home with guns drawn to find that my daughter did not close the door properly and the wind blew it open. Anyway, there in my closet was my 12 gauge shotgun locked up along with one of my new bowie knives. I thought for sure that they would ask my wife if the shotgun was registered (which it is), but they never did. In fact they were more interested in my boar heads hanging on the wall and where I hunt.

I just found it odd that they did not even come back to me and ask to see my permit (which I obviously have).
 
Rifle/Shotgun possession with out a permit in NYC is an Admin Code violation and therefore tends to be a summons. For which they will need to voucher the guns, after transporting them for a low level Admin Code violation. You were a possible victim not a suspect so that is in your favor. Finally, it was a nice sunny day that was not raining or cold so no need to be in the "house" doing four hours of paperwork.....had any of those conditions been different ( or near the end of the month) at least one of them would have asked. lol.....
 
Why would they harass an obviously law abiding citizen? I'm sure these fellas all have a shotgun or 2 in their own closets at home.
 
Quite honestly, they are more than welcome to ask for my permits and such. I keep all my rifle/shotgun permits and hunting licenses going back about 15 yrs. As such, I am not worried.

I just found it funny that they didn't even take a second look. One of my retired LEO friends told me that by contacting the police, it is an indication that the home owner or "victim" is not hiding anything.

Oh well.......just another life experience I guess.
 
charles, I do and don't agree with your friend. They came in reponse to a 10-11 ( burglar alarm) not a "call for help". There are countless arrest made for items in plane view when officers respond to alarms, EMS aided cases, family disputes, etc. You and your family were acting correctly and they saw evidence of your hunting, which to some degree infers a hunting license...In today's world I am surprised they did not ask. You have your papers so no need to worry either way....Glad it was OK and no one truly broke in !!!!
 
Thanks!

You can say that again, when I received the call from the alarm company, I immediately thought of the "Ninja" that has been burglarizing our neighborhood (this was over a month ago). I thought it would be pretty funny (or not) if he was caught in my home!!

My real concern was what if the burglar (if one was there) managed to break open my steel shotgun rack (pretty tough to do). Would the nut use it against the police?? That I could not live with...... Come to think of it though, the gun is not loaded and the ammo is also locked up.

Yes, I said "Ninja" so you can guess which borough I live in.
 
Funny as I was going to ask if you lived in SI !!!!! The cops there love to write tickets but other laws are less enforced......That adds alot to why they did not ask...I manage a few properties in SI. In front of the SI Mall the staples and Circuit City and six other stores is one spot, and the Regal/UA theartre on Forest Ave is another....We got hit with graffti all the time and I make a report each time to try and get them to do something.....A few times I have had officers respond who did not want to even take the report ( until I showed my old ID) ...lol...
 
tom19176 said:
charles, I do and don't agree with your friend. They came in reponse to a 10-11 ( burglar alarm) not a "call for help". There are countless arrest made for items in plane view when officers respond to alarms, EMS aided cases, family disputes, etc. You and your family were acting correctly and they saw evidence of your hunting, which to some degree infers a hunting license...In today's world I am surprised they did not ask. You have your papers so no need to worry either way....Glad it was OK and no one truly broke in !!!!
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This is why I use an in-the-wall small arms locker for my thundersticks. My state (Massachusetts) is fanatically anti-gun and the police have been brainwashed to treat all gun owners with suspicion. The locker has been installed in a closet, fitting flush between the wall studs, hidden with a piece of paneling and surrounded by clothes. No "plain view" if the cops/firefighters/EMTs come to call. I do have a valid Firearm Identification Card (FID), which legally allows me to possess rifles and shotguns but I do keep them completely out of sight at home. The less others see, the better.
 
I live in Georgia, one of the more liberal thinking toward guns, knives, etc., and over the years have accumulated considerably of both above. Five or so years ago, I noticed the increase of home break ins, and while at the time, I was keeping most of my various firearms and knives in a large locker at one of the local banks, in their vault, I decided the annual cost would easily pay for a gun safe to keep at home, as well as make them more accessible. So after lots of comparing, ended up ordering a Sportsman Safe from Long Beach Calif., with exterior dimensions of 72" high, 60" long, and 28" deep, weighing a supposedly 1850 lbs.
This purchase was discussed, my wife was shown the size with a tape measure, and where I planned on placing it, and agreed to the whole idea.
However, when it arrived, and was finally moved inside, she started to complain as to she had not realized it was so large, and so on, but once placed, with the crew gone, it was more or less a "done deal".
Since it is in the only concrete floored room in the house, a former closed in carport, and where we seem to spend most of our non working, hours when awake, most visitors have commented concerning the large black tin box, but several weeks ago, the burglar alarm malfunctioned, and when we arrived home that evening, the neighbors had called the local police, then were still there. I unlocked the house, and two of them made a rapid check of the house, could find no evidence of anyone gaining entrance, or other problems, and I thought it was all over.
I told them I would contact the alarm people to check it over, and thanked them for them doing their duty, and then one asked what I kept in the large gun safe? I told him some guns, knives, ammo, etc., and he almost demanded I open it for him to look. I think if he would have cooled it a bit, I would have done as he wanted, but the fact he demanded I open it, got my back up, and I asked if he had a warrant? He was forced to admit he didn't have a warrant, so was told "No Warrant, No view of contents".
With this statement, the former appearances of being "servants of the people" vanished, and now I was actually verbally threatened with being taken in. Told them "if that was what they thought was the proper way of handling this, do what they felt they had to do, but remember, every dog has his day, and mine was still due".
Eventually, after several threats, they did leave, but now my wife is concerned. She is somewhat cowed by their threats, so I have contacted my attorney, had a discussion with him, and he has promised to do what is required, day or night, when and if one or the other returns, and attempts to throw their weight around.
I did not tell them, but I have a Legal Concealed Carry License, and was armed as we spoke, so possibly, when they checked me out later, they leaned this plus the fact of being a 49 year resident, with no record, and have cooled down by now, but that is just a hope.
Now, if this sort of pressure can be brought to bear in a rather liberal state like Georgia, I can just imagine what it would be like in some of the more Communistic areas, and am concerned how far this anti citizen move will go before it all ends. You will notice, I did not say "anti Gun" but said "anti Citizen", as that is what it ends up as. Very few so called anti gun folks are actually against guns, They are just against you and I having guns, instead of them.
 
Wow Shooter10, that is some story. I hope all goes well for you.

I just can't get over the fact that so many people look at us like we are the bad guys. When people even hear that I hunt, they think I am "crazy."

I just don't get it anymore....... :confused:
 
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